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Chris Sanderson
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« on: December 06, 2010, 03:08:31 PM »
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OK, I admit - a bit of a troll:  Grin

I'll go out on a limb here and draw a parallel between Combocams and All Season Tires!

 A 'good thing' perhaps, but if you compare the top-end of Stills equipment/Summer Tires to top-end Video equipment/Winter tires, the hybrid beast of Combocam/All Season Tires is pretty shabby by comparison. Too much compromise is needed for the hybrid to compete in all areas with the real thing. Something is bound to be left behind. Both ComboCams and All Season Tires scream COMPROMISE. But - they do do an admirable job given that compromise.

We are at the stage where technology allows the creation of good HD Video in Stills cameras and, perhaps to come in the future, is the reverse - good stills in Video cameras.

But I think the arrival of stills equipment that shoots good video might actually have talked up the stills market into thinking it wants such a thing. The disciplines are different in approach and execution. Yes, I know we may want shallow DOF in video and stills has given us that by happenstance - great! But stills cameras are still hopelessly handicapped to shoot good HD Video & Sound as effectively and efficiently as a good video camera. The physical form factor just simply creates too much compromise. Just look at a DSLR kitted out to shoot good video.

Yes, it would be great for studio guys to shoot with just one box and one set of lights - but I wonder if Panasonic may not be showing the probable way to the end of this discussion. They have just brought forward the combination of a really good Combocam in the GH2 and they are about to ship a superb Video camera for around $5000 - the AG/AF100. Both the GH2 & AF100 use the same lens mount and therefore have interchangeable glass. Hooray! That means only one set of lenses. And similar abilities for relatively shallow DOF - the same +/- as 35mm motion picture.

But if you look at the video goodies that come in the AF100 and you were to try to cobble those additional features onto a stills camera, I believe you would have that All Season hybrid that was OK for many but not so much for the top end: an All Season ComboCam.
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 06:41:30 PM »
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Chris, I think we are at the beginning of serious tires changes.
At the beginning, we thought convergence from the stillers and truly the 5D made history, and now more refined devices.
Now, we step back (or forward) because of usability issues and finally realised that a video camera is the best tool for making videos and a still camera for making stills.

But the surprise will come at one point or another as you pointed, from video cameras when they will be able to produce top stills, but I'm thinking there, top still extracted from video frames, wich means that the downsample process will not be made in-camera.(thank god a x MP sensor will be used at its full potential in both)
When we will reach that stage, and we will, all the craft of photography will be completly transformed.

Also, I bet that the still lenguage is going to decrease step by step in favor of motion imagery in our daily culture. What is still now will be motion tomorrow. What will be the Hollywod type industry then? Well, I think they will go like 3D big productions stuff.

I'm not sure we are measuring the impact of the changes that are being cooked now and will arrive on our table prety soon.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 07:28:59 PM »
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Yep Fred - two different perspectives.

Mine: I wonder when I will see a ComboCam with XLR audio inputs and proper audio controls? When an ergonomic ComboCam?
Yours: When will we see a video camera with a RAW 90 mpx output that does not interrupt the video? Soon?
Maybe!
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 05:21:57 AM »
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Yep Fred - two different perspectives.

Mine: I wonder when I will see a ComboCam with XLR audio inputs and proper audio controls? When an ergonomic ComboCam?
Yours: When will we see a video camera with a RAW 90 mpx output that does not interrupt the video? Soon?
Maybe!
Cris, I'd be more than happy with 30 mpx  Grin

But you touched a point: sound. I'm quite (no, not quite, really) new in video and at first I obviously focussed my attention on the image, but audio is really key and trully a more abandoned part. I'm just starting to realise how important it is and how difficult it is. So usability in audio is not a little think and thank you for pointing it.



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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2010, 07:13:40 AM »
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Adobe's SoundBooth, Apple's SoundTrack Pro, or BIAS' Peak - all are very good.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2010, 09:53:34 AM »
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Mine: I wonder when I will see a ComboCam with XLR audio inputs and proper audio controls?
Having proper inputs is only part of the problem. To get decent audio you still need someone just looking after the sound.
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