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« on: December 22, 2010, 10:37:39 AM »
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Has anyone seen both the Luminous Landscape offering and George Jardine's to be able to contrast the relative merits of each?
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2010, 05:37:15 PM »
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Yes - Lula for me all the way. I feel its far more entertaining.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 10:03:26 PM »
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Josh, I'd love to hear more. Which did you learn more from?
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 11:14:59 PM »
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This is purely subjective - but I have always found education a lot more interesting when it is entertaining as well as informative. This is a mix Michael and Jeff carry off very well in all of their tutorials. The lula tutorials frequently also offer some fascinating insights into Adobe as well as Michael and Jeff's own work and thoughts.

Flip side of the coin - other tutorials (I wont name them - lets just leave them as 'others' ) are usually far to dry and uninteresting; often produced in a monotone voices with zero entertainment value. They bore me in seconds.

As to which tutorial you may learn more from - well that depends on your current level of knowledge.

All else I can really say is that the lula tutorials have great watchability and that I recommend them.
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2010, 09:20:42 AM »
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other tutorials (I wont name them - lets just leave them as 'others' ) are usually far to dry and uninteresting; often produced in a monotone voices with zero entertainment value.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2011, 12:00:45 PM »
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I have watched Lula, Kelby, Lynda and Jardine’s video tutorials. I have found Jardine’s to be the best. He provides comprehensive coverage of all the features while keeping the instructions clear and understandable. His teaching style is engaging and well-organized.

But decide for yourself. Lula and Jardine each provide a free tutorial. Lula can be found at the Lula store. Jardine’s at http://mulita.com/training/sample-dev3
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2011, 04:42:56 PM »
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I agree with Bret completely. Jardine’s tutorials provide a very professional and comprehensive view of Lightroom. The video and audio are both excellent quality and easy to follow. I found Lula to be choppy and unpolished. Jardine is an excellent teacher and I defiantly recommend his tutorials.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2011, 05:15:10 PM »
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Coincidence that two newbies Ariel & Bret M. with the same IP address are so much in agreement? - or perhaps not so much...  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2011, 05:21:31 PM »
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The LuLa tutorials I have (most of them) are so good that I don't bother looking elsewhere unless I need a quick "how to" on a topic that LuLa doesn't cover.

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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2011, 05:22:25 PM »
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And I am in complete agreement with Eric.

I even have the same IP address (and name).  Cool

Eric
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2011, 05:27:33 PM »
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Hey Chris, I have an idea.

Let's go on competitors web sites and anonymously say how much better our products are than theirs?

No one will ever catch on.

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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2011, 07:13:23 PM »
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Hey Michael,

Are you using my IP address again?
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2011, 12:08:59 AM »
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Coincidence that two newbies Ariel & Bret M. with the same IP address are so much in agreement? - or perhaps not so much...  Grin

BUSTED!

That's actually pretty funny. Ya think somebody would come here and get the lay of the land for a few days before stepping on their "member" like that. Oh well, a putz is a putz...it's fun to kick them when you get them on the ground!

But regardless of what this putz may have said, I do like George's videos. They are short and to the point (if not maybe a little dry for my taste–but hey, I'm prolly biased). And George did work for Adobe and was involved in the development of Lightroom and knows his stuff.

Course, I'm also a big fan of Martin Evening's Lightroom book and Seth Resnick's D65's Lightroom Workbook ebook as well. I also like Matt Kozlowski's lightroomkillertips.com and Victoria Bampton's lightroomqueen.com.

Lot's of ways to learn Lightroom. But the best is to actually USE it!

Bret M. & Ariel, come back and take your medicine!
(and try to find a different IP address :-)
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2011, 01:45:44 AM »
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Hi,

And I am in complete agreement with Eric.

Having a different name IP...

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And I am in complete agreement with Eric.

I even have the same IP address (and name).  Cool

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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2011, 08:39:25 AM »
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No coincidence. Two photographers living together and sharing the same router! We both are readers of the forum and decided to finally try out contributing. We both have been watching tutorials over the winter break from school. And yes, we both have the same IP address!
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2011, 10:27:27 AM »
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But regardless of what this putz may have said, I do like George's videos.
But the important question is: What kind of shirts does George wear?  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2011, 09:08:57 PM »
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I thought they were excellent and it gave me a speed up on learning especially the Develop Module
I hope they continue when V4 arrives
I tried the lynda.con video prefered the LL Video's cost's less too Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2011, 01:00:57 PM »
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A very interesting thread. Once again, it points to how everyone is looking for something different. No matter what your style, if the content is good, you will have the opportunity to gain an audience.

As for my "style".... I agree with Jeff. It is dry. That's just me. I've tried to spend my energy on making the videos clear, concise, and well organized. Not on making them entertaining (aside from adding a tiny bit of music at the beginning and end just to set the tone...). That's not to say that entertainment value is not a worthy goal. It's just not my forte. I script the videos. Record the and edit the audio. Record and edit the video. Do all my own compression, HTML, CSS, blogging, sales, marketing, etc., etc. Oh, and... I do the photography, too. I'm tired at the end of the day!  :-)

My other focus is to always try and keep the end goal in sight. Making better pictures. I feel that too many tutorials are simply geeking out on the knobs and switches. When I worked in Special Projects at Adobe, we called them "Tips and Tricks". Which I'm done with. I'm trying to tell a larger story now. But again, everyone is looking for a different thing. And I think (hope) the photographers who gravitate to my videos will be the ones who don't mind sitting and watching a 20 or 30 minute video, but then after that, are dying to get back out there and exercise their eye... finesse their vision, and make some better pictures.

George Jardine
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2011, 10:46:38 AM »
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Hi George,

Nice to see Mr. Lightroom Adventure on this forum!

Best regards
Erik

A very interesting thread. Once again, it points to how everyone is looking for something different. No matter what your style, if the content is good, you will have the opportunity to gain an audience.

As for my "style".... I agree with Jeff. It is dry. That's just me. I've tried to spend my energy on making the videos clear, concise, and well organized. Not on making them entertaining (aside from adding a tiny bit of music at the beginning and end just to set the tone...). That's not to say that entertainment value is not a worthy goal. It's just not my forte. I script the videos. Record the and edit the audio. Record and edit the video. Do all my own compression, HTML, CSS, blogging, sales, marketing, etc., etc. Oh, and... I do the photography, too. I'm tired at the end of the day!  :-)

My other focus is to always try and keep the end goal in sight. Making better pictures. I feel that too many tutorials are simply geeking out on the knobs and switches. When I worked in Special Projects at Adobe, we called them "Tips and Tricks". Which I'm done with. I'm trying to tell a larger story now. But again, everyone is looking for a different thing. And I think (hope) the photographers who gravitate to my videos will be the ones who don't mind sitting and watching a 20 or 30 minute video, but then after that, are dying to get back out there and exercise their eye... finesse their vision, and make some better pictures.

George Jardine
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2011, 11:15:10 AM »
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For me it's more important what type of pants the video presenter is wearing. Grin
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