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« on: February 15, 2011, 09:37:06 PM »
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I tamed this very high contrast scene as best as I could. A bronze beauty basking (baking?) in the sun. What think ye?
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2011, 03:00:09 PM »
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I think several things: 1. you shot it at the worst time of day when the sun was too high. Early morning, early evening or possibly a night shot would have been better; 2. it was a mistake to tilt the camera. This isn't a studio shot--the outdoor setting is as important as the sculpture itself. Having everything at a 45 angle makes no visual sense. Is the pool of water frozen? Is it made of glass? Why is it defying gravity?; 3. you haven't convinced me that the sculpture makes for a compelling subject. It's a sculpture. So what? It might make for an interesting subject in the context of its environment (no way to tell from this), but by itself it's a bore.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2011, 06:19:07 PM »
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Frame, Sorry, but I have to echo Pop's comments. Time to try again. You might profit by studying the works of some of the masters in order to help internalize the kind of thing that makes a good photograph. Usually, being upright is one of those things.
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 12:47:31 AM »
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I agree with the others.  Nice try, but delete and move on.

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 06:39:43 PM »
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Did no one notice the "face" in the reflection?  Is it Jesus?  Or the Drummer from KISS?
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 10:27:17 PM »
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agree on the tilting part
when I look at this photo it seems that you havnt mastered how to shoot with the camera level before playing with tilting
in this case the tilting makes no sense whatsoever
the composition itself is awkward as well
a lot of messy stuff around the scene that you could avoid by either clearing them or picking another angle(and lens)
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2011, 03:08:32 AM »
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Will le snoop made this comment in another thread with respect to Lula
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I have also read that one is also not assured 100% honest opinion if you post a photo for critique.

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If Will has read the above then the answer is there? I think the image isn't a bad effort to try artistically to convey something he saw by tilting the image. I think the comments were a little harsh and I hope he will keep trying to "see" as Russ has pointed out in the past Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2011, 04:22:47 AM »
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I don't think there's anything wrong with the angle at all; why should things be vertical? This isn't architecture, and even there, there are times to deviate from the horrid norm!

There are a few things I don't like:

a. the chick has no boobs or she's too young to be playing at nymphs;
b. the light isn't great, as has been pointed out;
c. some repairs could be done by subduing the background: dim dim the lights, let's get some atmosphere! Or even try to out-of-focus it a bit.

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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2011, 08:28:53 AM »
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Rob, The norm isn't always horrid. In fact, usually it's not horrid. That's why it's called the norm. But you're right, all things considered, not all things need to be vertical. Garry Winogrand was one guy who showed how to deviate from that norm in a creative way. He frequently shot non-vertical pictures. A classic example of a not vertical picture that works is a Winogrand picture on a New York street where a man is approaching a young woman standing in front of a building. The man is approaching from the left and Winogrand has tilted the picture so that it looks as if the man is walking downhill toward the woman. The result is a feeling of mild foreboding as the man slides downward toward the woman. The problem with Frame's picture is that there's no visible reason for the nymph to be tilted.
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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2011, 01:10:29 PM »
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well the thing about tilting, as I said, nothing wrong with it
but first you must master how to level your camera
you dont just tilt the camera any angle
first you must understand what you are doing when tilting that camera

in this photo, not just the X/Y-axis, but the Z-axis as well
the photo therefore has no weight in it
its okay on a small size picture but if you enlarge it you might feel the problem


sorry I am not trying to pick on this particular photographer
but as digital photography is so common and DSLR is within reach of most people
everyone with a DSLR thinks they are  photographers
a lot of the time, a simple, level picture cant even be shot
go back and shoot a nice stiff and square photo before you play with all these weird angle
would help a great deal
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2011, 01:39:51 PM »
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well the thing about tilting, as I said, nothing wrong with it
but first you must master how to level your camera
you dont just tilt the camera any angle
first you must understand what you are doing when tilting that camera

in this photo, not just the X/Y-axis, but the Z-axis as well
the photo therefore has no weight in it
its okay on a small size picture but if you enlarge it you might feel the problem


sorry I am not trying to pick on this particular photographer
but as digital photography is so common and DSLR is within reach of most people
everyone with a DSLR thinks they are  photographers
a lot of the time, a simple, level picture cant even be shot
go back and shoot a nice stiff and square photo before you play with all these weird angle
would help a great deal



Umm, are you sure that the OP is a newbie?

Grandma and eggs comes to mind, but I simply don't know.

Rob C
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2011, 07:50:20 PM »
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It's a tough crowd, but that's what I asked for...so thanks to all for the comments.  I am planning on returning to this location in  couple of months & I will try again.  I'll think harder about perspective.  This picture was made with a point & shoot, next time I'll have a dSLR & tripod (if I can sneak it in to the site). 
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2011, 07:40:52 AM »
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drop the tripod with all that light
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