Don't you get tired of being "against" people all the time? Aren't you tired of arguing about nothing with everyone?
Didn't you get banned for a while? What's up, man? Can't you just chill out?
Just curious, why are "you" getting so emotional over a debate that has nothing to do with you?
Me personally, I thought I was in a legitimate debate about whether "the hand of man" needed to be in a landscape shot or not, which (thanks to Russ) turned kind of south, but I felt Russ and I were just being mutual "wise-guys" to each other, nothing more. I certainly didn't think anything stated here was something to get upset about, even though I had my photography attacked But since I did just receive a personal "warning" from Michael
, it seems that some people have gotten their feelings hurt here, so I guess my final post on this subject will put an end to my participation in this digression, as it appears some people can't take what they dish out ...
Thus, in closing, I will say I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings bad enough so that they had to tell Michael about it. I personally don't take these internet debates/wise-guy fests that seriously, but apparently individual sensitivities vary.
Oh dear. I've just listened to an episode of Just A Minute in which Gyles Brandreth acted as you do, Jack, arguing on every occasion that he was right when he clearly wasn't. Of course, he was joking.
I've not "flip-flopped": I merely made a mistake in pointing out your error.
Gosh, this is just too funny. (If only I hadn't just been warned
Jeremy#2, I believe you are confusing a parenthetical expression
, which (had Russ used parentheses) would have kept the verb tense singular ... with merely using commas, which is what Russ used, and commas do not isolate what's inside them from being included in the verb tense in the same way parentheses do.
As for myself, I am never wrong.
(Well, once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.)
We must forgive Russ and let him retract: he allowed himself to be bullied into a Gallilean confession that he was wrong.
I did not bully Russ at all: I merely pointed out an error which he immediately acknowledged. However, since someone felt the need to "tell on me," then maybe I was being a bully without realizing it.
but he remains a better photographer and critic than either of us.
Please speak for yourself Jeremy. I have really enjoyed some of Russ' photos, within his comfortable genre and shooting style, but as a macro shooter
I think I would compare favorably with either one of you, and by a pretty wide margin.
That said, I don't think there is much to be gained by spiralling downward and debating who is better than whom here; rather I thought this section of the forum was designed so that we can all enjoy
what we each do best ... and help each other
on matters where we need work.
Don't you think that would be more positive?
 PS: if anyone (yes Jack, anyone) wants to try this grammar quiz I'll happily let them know how they got on. It's from The Times, published quite recently.
Thanks for the challenge, but this will be my last post on this topic.
In closing, I would like to apologize to Riaan for my participation in this group-hijacking of his thread.
Hope everyone had a good weekend!