RawTherapee

[mouse]

Follow-up on my earlier posts.  I have now installed v.4.0.7.1 and it appears to be working perfectly.  Steep learning curve before being able to make use of the very broad range of adjustments. 

Interesting quirk(?).  When I just click on an image to view it in the preview panel, but do not make any adjustments nor save it, it still writes a .pp3 file to the folder.

Am looking forward to a more detailed user's manual.

[Keith Reeder]

Am looking forward to a more detailed user's manual.

More detailed than this?

Release 4.0.8 is out now, incidentally - some very interesting new features relating to ICC profiles...

[mouse]

Keith-

Thanks for that link.

Where can I find more information about the new features relating to ICC profiles?

[deejjjaaaa]

Keith-

Thanks for that link.

Where can I find more information about the new features relating to ICC profiles?

the best place will be to visit the forum and ask : http://rawtherapee.com/forum/index.php -> http://rawtherapee.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=814a2e40835293ebf1165534068ea88c

[MichaelEzra]

RawTherapee 4.0.8 is supporting ICC profiles that can deliver color look identical to that of Nikon/Phase One software: http://rawtherapee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3967
Additionally, also by Oliver Duis, this version adds support (and automated auto-selection) for DCP profiles that could be easily made and fine tuned using Adobe's DNG profile maker.
More detailed information on this is available in the manual: http://rawtherapee.com/blog/documentation

Full 4.0.8 release notes: http://rawtherapee.com/blog/rawtherapee-4.0.8-released

[Keith Reeder]

Hi Mouse,

I was being deliberately circumspect in my last post about the new ICC profile functionality in order to avoid possible discussions about copyright, but as Michael has suggested, it's now possible to use Nikon and Capture One profiles in RT, and (as a huge fan of Capture One colours - I've used that converter since r.3) I have to say that the use of the Cap One Canon 7D profile (or even better, something like the 5D Mk II profile, because the 7D profile isn't actually that good!) in RT is giving me images which are essentially indistinguishable from Cap One conversions, in colour terms - it's fantastic.

But the right place to discuss this, as the others suggest, is probably the RT forum.

[mouse]

Keith,

Thanks for your reply.  I have now installed v.4.0.8 and have found the profiles already added to the software (including the one for my d700).
Also I have now visited the RT forum and found a lot of good information.

Thanks again.

[MichaelEzra]

I would like to clarify that Nikon and PhaseOne icc profiles are *not* being distributed with RawTherapee builds. Anyone interested to use them in RawTherapee would need to reference  them from the independently licensed & installed Nikon or Phase one products; RawTherapee is simply made compatible to support them if so desired by user, providing a refined rendering using precision of a floating point engine. Enjoy!:)

[Keith Reeder]

Yep, an important point to make, Michael - I didn't have time to post in more detail earlier, and so simply kept things at a high level.

Mouse, my pleasure.

Just remember that RT is still very much a work in progress, but the promise is huge, and if you're OK with the conversion speed (the devs freely accept there's considerable room for improvement there) the results RT can deliver are jaw-dropping.

The next highlight to be anticipated is a significantly-improved NR algorithm which - based on early examples I've seen - will put RT up there with Lightroom in NR terms.

[douvidl]

Does anyone know when RT will be available for those of us with Lion?
thanks
David

[ario]

Apparently none of the developers and builders in the RT community uses Lion (answer given in the RT forum), so I see little chances this is going to happen soon.

[OldRoy]

Perhaps because it's interface is so buggy and quirky as to be useless....   

The illogical interface makes RT frustrating-at-best under Windows.  I don't know why the author feels the need to make such a non-standard interface. 

RT is unusable junk on my Ubuntu system where 3.0a opens in a virtual window that is significantly wider than my real screen.  Any attempt to click on any item in the interface causes the virtual window to jump back and forth between left and right justification.  Cute.

I've tried RT on several platforms over the years and always wind up deleting the "_#$^@#%$#!% pile of !#%@#$"
The program is frustrating - VERY frustrating.

Well, I just installed the current version of this program on a Win7/64 system. It's completely new to me as I've been using CNX2 exclusively for a few years. I've recently bought an Olympus OMD whose supplied RAW software is pretty awful, hence my reason for trying something else.

It sure doesn't look conspicuously buggy to me. Neither is its interface particularly obtuse by share/free- ware standards. How about, er, Linux...?

What I will say about RawTherapee is that the number of variables it offers is pretty bewildering: and it has an awful name. Also opening RAW files from Nikon and Olympus initially reveals very low-contrast, desaturated looking images at the default settings. It's a lot of work to get something resembling what I can get from CNX2 with a few quick adjustments.

I'd be interested to hear the opinion of anyone who has got to grips with RawTherapee as to its usefulness. Is it worth struggling to understand it?
Roy

[OldRoy]

More detailed than this?

Release 4.0.8 is out now, incidentally - some very interesting new features relating to ICC profiles...

You'd imagine they might be able to get the guide to display properly in Chrome...
Roy

[BartvanderWolf]

I'd be interested to hear the opinion of anyone who has got to grips with RawTherapee as to its usefulness. Is it worth struggling to understand it?

Hi Roy,

It's so full of features (even more than most other converters put together), and allows so much control, it is indeed bewildering. Its Raw conversion quality can be quite good, but that also depends on how it is used, which requires doing the learning curve thing. The price is also hard to beat, so it all comes down to whether you want to invest some time learning to use it.

Cheers,
Bart

[douvidl]

Dear Old;
I've used RT on a Mac with CS4 & 5.  I found it to be elegant, challenging and offer an array of filters and adjustments that just made my file jump.  It is somewhat arduous, but well worth it, IMHO.  I regret it is not available for CS6.  Pity, Pity.  Have you explored the manual?
David

[mouse]

I regret it is not available for CS6.  Pity, Pity. 

Don't understand.  What prevents doing raw conversion in RT and then opening the file (tiff) in CS6?

[douvidl]

RT don't like Lion.
Just pussycats
David

[Keith Reeder]

"CS6" is Photoshop, isn't it?

I've no idea what you mean by your comment, David.

[douvidl]

Sorry.  My belated attempt at humor.
I am on  a Mac running the Lion  operating program 10.7, I think.  RT is not YET compatable  (sp)  with Lion.  So I can not open RT.
Yes, CS6 is photoshop.
Am I making some sense?
David

[kirkt]

I'm running RT on Lion 10.7.4.  There is, however, a problem when you install and try to run the software - it does not launch.  You need to do a little tinkering - see this thread:

http://code.google.com/p/rawtherapee/issues/detail?id=884

You basically need to go to the /usr/lib directory and copy the libcups library:

/usr/lib/libcups.2.dylib

to the Raw Therapee directory:

RawTherapee.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/

and the application will run fine.  I did this for RT version 4.0.6, available for download here:

http://rawtherapee.com/downloads

Best of luck!

kirk