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« Reply #140 on: July 22, 2013, 11:21:58 AM »
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I never go anywhere without a camera, but in my own experience I've found that in order to make good use of the camera I have to shift away from "wandering around with a camera over my shoulder" mode into "looking for pictures" mode. If I'm carrying my D3 or D800 I'm always in "looking for pictures" mode because I wouldn't go out with a camera that heavy and bulky if I weren't out there for pictures. But in "wandering around with a camera over my shoulder" mode the E-P1 is, literally, over my shoulder, not ready for the kind of reflex snapping needed for the street. But when I wrap the strap around my wrist and get the camera into my hand, then I'll get pictures.
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« Reply #141 on: July 22, 2013, 12:17:19 PM »
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Unshackle your burdens! Cut a 2x3 window in some foam core and carry that instead of a camera.
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« Reply #142 on: July 22, 2013, 12:25:36 PM »
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... it reminds me of all those people that actually missed the experience of vital events because they were too busy trying to capture it..

Funny you mentioned that. I posted this, in response to Rob's similar thoughts on the subject, about a year ago:

"Reminds me of a discussion I had with a mountaineering friend. He was telling me about the joy of being there, high up, alone, witnessing a magnificent vista, etc., and I responded by lamenting the fact that he does not carry a camera. He seemed genuinely bewildered by my suggestion. His explanation was that it is precisely the lack of recording (and inherent subsequent sharing of it) that makes the moment unique and transient, intimate and personal. Capturing it sounded to him like imprisoning it, sharing it like prostituting it. Something like a masstardization™ of beauty (my newly coined word: mass bastardization Smiley)"
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« Reply #143 on: July 22, 2013, 12:54:15 PM »
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Unshackle your burdens! Cut a 2x3 window in some foam core and carry that instead of a camera.

Is that what you do, Isaac?
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« Reply #144 on: July 22, 2013, 01:51:41 PM »
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Funny you mentioned that. I posted this, in response to Rob's similar thoughts on the subject, about a year ago:

"Reminds me of a discussion I had with a mountaineering friend. ...

I must agree with him. I happen to like how my memory completely distorts the reality of past events. Never understood the whole 60s thingy with drugs and all. My brain f**ks with my perception of reality quite enough on its own.
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« Reply #145 on: July 22, 2013, 02:46:21 PM »
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Is that what you do, Isaac?

My modest SLT-A35 - with battery, modest fixed-length 35mm or 85mm, and lens hood - only weighs 24oz. I carry that camera in-hand for 5 or 6 hours without tiredness.

Even with camera in-hand, I seem to have less difficulty with "the joy of being there" versus "looking for pictures" than a couple of years ago. I seem able to choose being there, without regret.

Intermittently I will see something and engage in an episode of Taking the Photograph, but that feels less like an interruption and more like an addition. It's just that I'm starting to handle that camera, and those lenses, and that mini-tripod and tape and remote, and... more fluently ;-)
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« Reply #146 on: July 22, 2013, 03:03:16 PM »
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Sounds good. Lets see some of the stuff you shoot.
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« Reply #147 on: July 22, 2013, 03:52:08 PM »
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If I was going to post photos, I would have done so by now.
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« Reply #148 on: July 22, 2013, 03:56:04 PM »
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The why are you on here?
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« Reply #149 on: July 22, 2013, 05:59:36 PM »
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Judging on performance, Isaac seems to me to be here to add a bit of intellectual rigor and a lot of interesting art-historical and theoretical context to our discussions. Of course, this isn't always gratifying to the rest of us and I have sometimes thought he might let go of subjects a bit sooner. But seeing his photographs would make no difference at all to my assessment of the quality of his thoughts.
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« Reply #150 on: July 22, 2013, 06:03:06 PM »
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The why are you on here?
To do my choice of those things that others choose to do here.
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« Reply #151 on: July 22, 2013, 08:08:31 PM »
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No kidding! And what are those?
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« Reply #152 on: July 23, 2013, 01:25:25 AM »
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Just in this discussion others have chosen to post: hectoring questions, supportive comments, comedic asides, personal anecdotes, ...

As you say -- As Casey said, "You could look it up."
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« Reply #153 on: July 23, 2013, 09:41:31 AM »
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Well, I agree that's a lot of fun and I enjoy it too, but this forum is supposed to be about photographs.
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« Reply #154 on: July 23, 2013, 11:39:41 AM »
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This forum is supposed to be about -- "opinions on photography as an art form".

Do your descriptions of cameras and lenses and shoulder straps express an opinion on photography as an art form?
Do they say anything about Gursky's photography?

Physician, heal thyself;

In retrospect, only Ray seems to have had an informed opinion about Rhein II.
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« Reply #155 on: July 23, 2013, 11:51:14 AM »
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In retrospect, only Ray seems to have had an informed opinion about Rhein II.
No.

Have you ever actually seen the work yourself ? or any original Gursky prints ?
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« Reply #156 on: July 23, 2013, 11:56:31 AM »
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No, I haven't seen Rhein II.

Ray deserves more than your one word dismissal ;-)
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« Reply #157 on: July 23, 2013, 12:21:20 PM »
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No, I haven't seen Rhein II.
Maybe instead of making one line comments and quoting others, you should make the effort to see the work yourself so you could offer your own informed opinion.
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Ray deserves more than your one word dismissal ;-)
The one word dismissal was aimed at you because other comments here have expressed informed opinion.
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« Reply #158 on: July 23, 2013, 12:31:24 PM »
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to see the work yourself

Seems that the Tate owns one, and MOMA owns one -- where are the other 4?

The one word dismissal was aimed at you because other comments here have expressed informed opinion.

I'd already dismissed my opinion about Rhein II when I put only Ray in bold :-)

Please do link to those other "informed" opinions.
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« Reply #159 on: July 23, 2013, 01:00:34 PM »
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Seems that the Tate owns one, and MOMA owns one -- where are the other 4?
So you haven't actually seen a Gursky original print at all then ?
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Please do link to those other "informed" opinions.
At least my comment #45 is based on having seen the work (and other Gursky originals)
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