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« on: November 26, 2011, 09:34:38 AM »
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Hi,

I've been doing quite a bit of reading over the last few days, much of it is over my head at the moment to be honest. But learning quite a bit with each post that I read!

I work in a design studio with roughly 30 windows 7 PC's, Dell workstation with U2410 screens and wacom 21UX screens. We also have various Dell laptops, some glossy screens, some RGB backlit, some matt screens. We also have a few Mac's.  We all print to an Espon 9900, mainly on Espon and hahnemuleh papers. We have a Canon 50D, soon to be upgraded to 5D.

We want to implement a colour managed workflow, from camera, to screen to print. We also do quite a bit of work on graphics in Adobe IdDesign and Illustrator. (I'm just watching "camera to print and screen 2011" btw)

we were thinking of an x-rite i1 photo pro or the publish pro. I have a budget of maybe $1.5k..

ultimately we're looking for consistency.

is the i1Photo/Publish the way to go? is there another option? I've heard pretty bad things about the spyder series, but also that the spider 4 is due out soon maybe it'll be better?.

what about the i1Display vs the i1Pro? Can the i1Display do anything that the i1Pro can't? how old is the Pro? is that due an upgrade?  

Thanks to all for maintaining such a wonderful resource!!

James
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 07:06:39 AM »
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is the i1Photo/Publish the way to go? is there another option? what about the i1Display vs the i1Pro? Can the i1Display do anything that the i1Pro can't? how old is the Pro? is that due an upgrade?

The new i1Profiler (with i1Photo Pro or Publish Pro) is probably the way to go. The main difference between i1Photo and i1Publish is that i1Publish handles CMYK profiling which may be of use if you're using a RIP with the Epson 9900 or think you can use the CMYK+4 channels to get better profiles. The new i1Display Pro pretty much handles most monitors even better than the i1Pro due to better light capturing ability so I think probably a combo of the i1Photo Pro + i1Display Pro would handle most of the jobs you would throw at it unless you needed CMYK profiling support.
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 07:15:35 AM »
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Thanks for the reply Philip.

I wasn't sure if the Display Pro had better light capturing ability - I was thinking it might be better due to the simple fact that it's newer. It's a reasonably cheap piece of kit to add on anyway.

Has it been confirmed that it is in fact better?

So would I just be using the i1Pro for spot capture and printer calibration? or are there monitors that the i1Pro would handle better?

Thanks for your help,

James
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2011, 03:39:57 PM »
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http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=53825.msg475402#msg475402
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 04:25:05 PM »
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Brilliant thanks! I read that last week but it was well over my head to be honest, but I reread it there now and it makes sense.

Thanks

James
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2011, 04:55:43 AM »
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I wasn't sure if the Display Pro had better light capturing ability - I was thinking it might be better due to the simple fact that it's newer. It's a reasonably cheap piece of kit to add on anyway. So would I just be using the i1Pro for spot capture and printer calibration? or are there monitors that the i1Pro would handle better?

The i1 Display Pro measures to lower light levels whereas the i1Pro has a slower sensor that is more susceptible to noise that makes it less than ideal for some of the monitors that are available nowadays. In general you'd use the i1Pro for spot/strip measurements and printer calibration and the i1DP for most of the day to day monitor calibrations you'd be doing. The i1DP has display data tables to assist with calibrating the more common display types (CCFL, LED, LCD, plasma) to pair it up with the colorimeter technology whereas a i1Pro wouldn't require this. There may be some displays that would benefit from using the i1Pro however I'd imagine an update would come out to make sure the i1DP supported it as well.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2011, 05:30:25 AM »
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The i1 Display Pro measures to lower light levels whereas the i1Pro has a slower sensor that is more susceptible to noise that makes it less than ideal for some of the monitors that are available nowadays. In general you'd use the i1Pro for spot/strip measurements and printer calibration and the i1DP for most of the day to day monitor calibrations you'd be doing. The i1DP has display data tables to assist with calibrating the more common display types (CCFL, LED, LCD, plasma) to pair it up with the colorimeter technology whereas a i1Pro wouldn't require this. There may be some displays that would benefit from using the i1Pro however I'd imagine an update would come out to make sure the i1DP supported it as well.

I agree with Mr. Cummings assessment and own both.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2011, 02:17:13 PM »
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Thanks for all the advice! I placed the order for both the i1Photo Pro and an i1Display pro. I should get them both next week.

I'm sure I'll be back here with more than a few questions once I get into it. Smiley

James
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