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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2012, 05:28:17 PM » |
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Im sorry, but your comments are so far off base as to be pure throw away material. I wouldn't be surprised to be mistaken, and I certainly wouldn't be embarrassed to be mistaken - to err is human. However, you have given no reason to suggest that the 4 specific comments I made about your artist statement were mistaken. From what I can see of your history you have never posted anything of substance to lula - period. Perhaps when you have shown what you are capable of people might take you seriously. As you pointed out, Josh, most of these critics don't post links to their own work. If I posted my work to LuLa, the meaning of words shown in dictionaries wouldn't change, it'd be just the same as now. If I posted my work to LuLa, English usage wouldn't change, it'd be just the same as now. Again you're attacking the messenger.
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« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2012, 03:53:47 AM » |
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Some of our friends across the pond use 'dude' or 'bud' in posts when matters get a tad warm - terms of endearment no doubt.
Rob,
Some of your posts tickle me.
Might have been nicer to have tickled Sharon, but there you go - no last words will change that. ;-( Rob C
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« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2012, 05:08:46 AM » |
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If I posted my work to LuLa, the meaning of words shown in dictionaries wouldn't change, it'd be just the same as now.
If I posted my work to LuLa, English usage wouldn't change, it'd be just the same as now. The point is you don't. Therefore your credibility = zero. I have wasted enough time responding to your erroneous commentary and your continual efforts to degenerate a useful thread into an opinionated waste of space. Feel free to respond and have the last word (looking at your post history thats clearly your 'thing'). But you have already been moved to 'ignore'.
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« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2012, 05:32:51 AM » |
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The point is you don't. Therefore your credibility = zero.
I have wasted enough time responding to your erroneous commentary and your continual efforts to degenerate a useful thread into an opinionated waste of space. Feel free to respond and have the last word (looking at your post history thats clearly your 'thing'). But you have already been moved to 'ignore'.
Looks, sounds and smells like a hissy fit. And to belittle somebody who has English as a second language is pathetic; a virtue of coming to English later in life is to respect it as a powerful means of expression when used with care, and Isaac appears, on the basis of his posts, to do so. Isaac also seems a courteous person by dint of his posts; I’d much rather interact with him.  
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« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2012, 10:07:01 PM » |
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And to belittle somebody who has English as a second language is pathetic; a virtue of coming to English later in life is to respect it as a powerful means of expression when used with care, and Isaac appears, on the basis of his posts, to do so. I see that my "Since coming to the U.S.A." comment caused some confusion - I came from the UK as a native English speaker, and had the two countries separated by a common language experience :-)
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« Reply #45 on: April 17, 2012, 02:28:44 AM » |
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I see that my "Since coming to the U.S.A." comment caused some confusion - I came from the UK as a native English speaker, and had the two countries separated by a common language experience :-)
Felicidades - it's now gone viral and separated continents. Rob C
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« Reply #46 on: April 17, 2012, 09:48:21 AM » |
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The point is you don't. Therefore your credibility = zero.
I have wasted enough time responding to your erroneous commentary and your continual efforts to degenerate a useful thread into an opinionated waste of space. Feel free to respond and have the last word (looking at your post history thats clearly your 'thing'). But you have already been moved to 'ignore'. Good luck!
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« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2012, 11:01:36 AM » |
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Back to the original topic. Does anyone have or know of examples of good, well-written, easily understood artist statements they could post or link? Thanks to those who have.
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« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2012, 01:20:50 PM » |
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Back to the original topic. Does anyone have or know of examples of good, well-written, easily understood artist statements ... What goal do you want the artist statement to achieve for you? We'll have a better chance of providing examples that are good (fit to purpose) if we know the goal.
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« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2012, 01:49:09 PM » |
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I LOVE it. It makes as much sense as engineering requirement docs without the formality. Tom Frerichs
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« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2012, 04:16:21 PM » |
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Back to the original topic. Does anyone have or know of examples of good, well-written, easily understood artist statements they could post or link? Thanks to those who have.
The E Book I referenced and linked to in a previous post has examples of AS. I don't think any photogs but they were well written. Here is one example http://www.sharonpitts.com/
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« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2012, 12:50:15 PM » |
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Does anyone have or know of examples of good, well-written, easily understood artist statements they could post or link? The book Art Journey America Landscapes: 89 Painters' Perspectives shows one page of text and one painting for each of the painters. (Some pages can be seen with Amazon LookInside.) The text is a short bio followed by 3 or 4 question and answer paragraphs, here are a few of the questions -- - "What inspired this painting?"
- "How would you describe your painting style?"
- "How do you plan your compositions?"
- "Is your painting inspired by spirituality? How is that seen in your art?"
- "Do any historical movements, periods or artists inspire your painting?"
- "What does landscape painting teach us about life and art?"
Those questions seem to touch on many of the points covered in artist statements, and the Q&A format avoids burdening the reader/prospect with the anxiety of having to think-up questions about the work. On a side note, only one of the painters gave the let the paintings speak for themselves response, and even they answered the "What inspired this painting?" question.
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« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2012, 03:59:19 PM » |
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What goal do you want the artist statement to achieve for you? We'll have a better chance of providing examples that are good (fit to purpose) if we know the goal.
Sorry about being late to respond. I've been busy. I want to be able to differentiate my various work. Since I shoot photojournalism, documentary and fine art, I need to suggest that I can turn off and on the post processing of fine art. In addition I want to diffuse the remarks that some people make about manipulating photos in post by offering a reason that it is done. As I asked in the first post, am I navigating a mine field by offering an artist's statement? Perhaps what I really need is an About Me statement for the fine art and leave it at that. Thanks.
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« Reply #54 on: April 20, 2012, 04:47:43 PM » |
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Sorry about being late to respond. I've been busy. I want to be able to differentiate my various work. Since I shoot photojournalism, documentary and fine art, I need to suggest that I can turn off and on the post processing of fine art. In addition I want to diffuse the remarks that some people make about manipulating photos in post by offering a reason that it is done. As I asked in the first post, am I navigating a mine field by offering an artist's statement? Perhaps what I really need is an About Me statement for the fine art and leave it at that. Thanks.
I don't think anyone knows, but I feel you're doing the right thing by subjecting your statement to an ordeal by fire! Too often people seem to write these things without apparently sensing how ludicrous they are making themselves appear. Surely an About Me can co-exist with a short artist's statement? I enjoyed looking at Chuck's pictures earlier at http://chuckkimmerle.com/ and he has an artist's statement that says something interesting without getting trapped in any of the bunkers. John
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« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2012, 02:43:55 AM » |
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I don't think anyone knows, but I feel you're doing the right thing by subjecting your statement to an ordeal by fire! Too often people seem to write these things without apparently sensing how ludicrous they are making themselves appear. Surely an About Me can co-exist with a short artist's statement? I enjoyed looking at Chuck's pictures earlier at http://chuckkimmerle.com/ and he has an artist's statement that says something interesting without getting trapped in any of the bunkers. John Yes, but one would excuse Chuck anything: his pictures are so eloquent, so well seen that he could write a politcal manifesto and it would pass as 'statement' without comment. That's the difference between photographers: some just have it with or without words where others are all words, good or bad. Rob C
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« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2012, 03:38:24 AM » |
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Just today I was at the Annenberg Space for Photography in Los Angeles. There were artist statements along with the photographs. For the most part I find artist statements to be overwrought about me pages sprinkled with "art-speak" words, and the phoney ones generated by artybollocks are disturbingly close to the real ones. Maybe the artists do have a sense of humor and are just going along withe the tradition and we are all taking them too seriously. Or maybe they don't.  All due respect to the folks who posted theirs (I don't have an AS but I do have a mission statement that uses a lot of the corporate -speak buzzwords) but the one that was about 8 paragraphs long is not going to be read by anyone, even close relatives will bail out after 3 or 4 graphs...
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« Reply #57 on: April 23, 2012, 05:50:10 AM » |
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Artist [or artist’s, or artists’] statements have one ultimate purpose: revenue.
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« Reply #58 on: April 23, 2012, 07:35:33 AM » |
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Artist [or artist’s, or artists’] statements have one ultimate purpose: revenue.
Are you sure? Are you absolutely convinced it isn't a face-saver, a 'blame the mission, not the man' sort of thing? Rob C
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« Reply #59 on: April 23, 2012, 11:09:15 AM » |
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Artist [or artist’s, or artists’] statements have one ultimate purpose: revenue. It ain't nece - ain't nece, Ain't nece - ain't nece, Ain't necessarily ... so !As "a self-evaluation of your work as it stands in the here and now" an artist statement can be a private assessment by someone who photographs for pleasure not profit.
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