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« on: April 15, 2012, 07:23:28 PM »
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45-minute exposure of star trails over Manaslu, the Earth's 8th highest peak, in Nepal. The onset of moonrise at the end of the exposure illuminates the mountain from the southeast.

EDIT: Again, the JPEG compression kind of kills it...
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 03:08:42 AM »
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Great photo!  Thanks for sharing.  Smiley

I even clicked on it a second time to enjoy it again.
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2012, 04:07:20 AM »
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Beautiful image!

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2012, 04:43:16 AM »
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Stunning image. Everything is "right", star trails and Manaslu well lit.
Congrats!
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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2012, 02:36:45 PM »
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Absolutely stunning. Oh how I wish for a long exposure capability on the Hasselblad. Longer than the measly minute (or ninety seconds or so when used the view camera)
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2012, 06:08:51 PM »
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It took three attempts on three consecutive nights to get the exposure and timing exactly right, lying in the snow at 4500m and -32 degrees centigrade for an hour each time!
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2012, 01:43:22 AM »
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Almost too many stars there...   Grin  Great picture and worth the effort.

Where was the viewpoint, we tried to do the Manaslu circuit in -09 but had to turn back form Samagaon as the pass was blocked by snow. Continued back to Arughat, took a bus to AC and went to Naar-Phu.
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2012, 08:14:57 AM »
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Freaking awesome! I know, such an educated response...but really, it's freaking awesome.  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2012, 11:54:37 AM »
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I agree. The correct technical term is "freaking awesome!"
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2012, 12:37:58 PM »
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I agree. The correct technical term is "freaking awesome!"
Only in polite online company, Eric. In less genteel environs, the first word may be strengthened a tad.

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2012, 12:42:43 PM »
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Ok, time for a little rain on this parade (or would "meteor shower" be more appropriate?)

I must be the only one who finds it cliche and mildly annoying, thus ruining perfectly good photographs. I mean it was really cool to see it, like, 30-40 years ago, when it was a rare sight, but after a gazillion versions in the digital and internet age, it lost its luster. It is on the path to become as ubiquitous, cliche and kitsch as orange sunsets. I also find the sheer amounts of it in this particular photo rather excessive.

But again, it must be just me.
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2012, 12:58:55 PM »
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Ok, time for a little rain on this parade (or would "meteor shower" be more appropriate?)

I must be the only one who finds it cliche and mildly annoying, thus ruining perfectly good photographs. I mean it was really cool to see it, like, 30-40 years ago, when it was a rare sight, but after a gazillion versions in the digital and internet age, it lost its luster. It is on the path to become as ubiquitous, cliche and kitsch as orange sunsets. I also find the sheer amounts of it in this particular photo rather excessive.

Orange sunsets, kitsch? You know, I'm almost inclined to agree with you.
But wow, where does that leave the photographer?
And would sunrises fit into the same basket?

I do agree that this photo is ... not special? The star trails are over done.
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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2012, 01:15:42 PM »
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I must be the only one who finds it cliche and mildly annoying, thus ruining perfectly good photographs.
I can see that the high-contrast texture of the star trails is attention-grabbing, so if the purpose of the image is to be eye-catching for a moment it should still succeed.

For other purposes perhaps it would be less successful - "You will want people to enjoy your painting for a long time. ... Do not try to shock the viewer with wild colors and/or unusual subject matter. This may initially attract the viewers, but they are more likely to tire of the painting over a long period of time."
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2012, 01:23:50 PM »
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Orange sunsets, kitsch? You know, I'm almost inclined to agree with you.
But wow, where does that leave the photographer?
That leaves the photographer asking why they took the photo; and Why? is often a good question to ask.
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2012, 08:15:43 PM »
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So, what then would constitute a "freaking awesome" shot for you? I am not being snotty in my response, but part of my awe lies with the knowledge he laid in snow for three hours making the shot...and, while it may well be an overdone shot, what really hasn't been a copy of something someone else has already done? Photography is very much like movies, once you've hit the Seven Deadly Sins in plot structure, everything else is a remake. Hopefully or perhaps thankfully a better cliche, some producers do it quite well. Oh well, I would be proud to call that shot my own.
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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2012, 09:46:19 PM »
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So, what then would constitute a "freaking awesome" shot for you?
These forums aren't threaded so please get into the habit of using the quote button and showing the most relevant bit of the comment that you're replying to - that way the rest of us can see exactly who and what you're responding to :-)
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2012, 12:27:17 AM »
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These forums aren't threaded so please get into the habit of using the quote button and showing the most relevant bit of the comment that you're replying to - that way the rest of us can see exactly who and what you're responding to :-)

Primarily to Slobodan Blagojevic, but as well to some of the others who felt the image was too glitzy. This is one of those agreeing to disagree moments. I certainly respect all people's opinions, but I don't always agree.
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2012, 11:50:37 AM »
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Primarily to Slobodan Blagojevic, but as well to some of the others who felt the image was too glitzy.
Thanks for that clarification (it would have been even clearer if you'd named more names rather than "some of the others").

... but I don't always agree.
But you did seem to agree with dreed, you said - "while it may well be an overdone shot".

What if you hadn't been told about the effort required to make the photograph? What would the photograph mean to you?
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2012, 12:53:14 PM »
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Thanks for that clarification (it would have been even clearer if you'd named more names rather than "some of the others").
But you did seem to agree with dreed, you said - "while it may well be an overdone shot".

What if you hadn't been told about the effort required to make the photograph? What would the photograph mean to you?

Overdone was an incorrect term on my part. I should have said it was a shot recreated many times over. I am not sure anything would change in my initial response as it is still an extremely well crafted shot. Had the moon not risen..who knows, had there been less stars, again, who knows. I like the combination of everything and how it all seems to tie together. Hey, but I am just a bit of a newbie hack in the digital world, so ask me again in a year.
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2012, 01:13:17 PM »
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I'm sad to hear how this thread has ended up. The OP made a stunning photo and others agree. But then Slobodan rained on the parade, which although is unfortunate, is not entirely without precedence on these forums. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I thinks it's great that people share what they see and photograph. In this case, it wasn't posted in "User Critiques" but in a more general forum. Yes, we've seen star trails before, but we've also seen the Big Sur Coast, Yosemite, the Mittens, rainbows and a whole host of sunsets in these forums without anyone saying "Oh, we've seen that a million times before." In fact, it would be difficult to post a photo on this forum that people haven't seen before. One of the steps in growing as a photographer is being able to achieve a certain, difficult technique - even if it's been done before. Shadowblade did that and did it well enough for a number of excellent photographers on this forum to say so. It's called encouragement.

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Slobodan: "I also find the sheer amounts of it [star trails] in this particular photo rather excessive."
dreed: "The star trails are over done."
...to criticize the number of stars!! Give me a break - you guys need to get out more often! That's what the sky looks like in true wilderness away from noise polluted cities! How can you criticize Mother Nature for having too many stars!! Or perhaps you want the photographer to brush a few out!

Thanks for sharing Shadowblade - don't let the turkeys get you down! Keep shooting what you like shooting. If others find it "ubiquitous, cliche and kitsch" - ignore them. Perhaps they think they are try to help you by pointing this out. I dunno?!?

I, for one, would like Shadowblade to tell us how he managed a 45-minute exposure (I assume, on a digital camera, but may have been with film he doesn't say) without a level of noise that overwhelms the photo. As well, how is it that your batteries didn't give out at that temperature? On a manual, mechanical film camera, I can understand, but on a digital??
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