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« on: May 17, 2012, 03:28:49 PM »
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I was trying to make a profile for an Epson 4900 with a glossy and a matte paper. The client had Windows 7 and Photoshop CS6. I've used to assign Adobe RGB to the profiling chart and then use Adobe RGB as the printer profile. But when I came to the printer dialog I couldn't choose Adobe RGB as a printer profile. I couldn't see any common workspace, no Adobe RGB, no ColorMatch RGB, no sRGB or Prophoto RGB. The only work space I could see was Wide Gamut RGB. I've since tested this on another Windows 7/Photoshop CS6 combination and it was the same problem on that computer.

Since I couldn't print the profiling charts through Photoshop, I downloaded Adobe Color Printing Utility and tried to print the charts that way. In the Epson driver I chose Matte ink and a media setting for Archival Matte. But when the chart came to the printer queue it said that the media setting was Premium Luster and the ink set was Photo black.

I then tried with a semigloss paper, and chose Premium Semi Gloss as media setting. Once again the printer queue said that the media setting was Premium Luster.

Any suggestions how to print a chart on a computer running W7?

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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 03:31:51 PM »
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The old NULL profile trick is dead in Photoshop CS6, impossible. Pick any profile as a source and the same for destination and the new dialog will pop a massage you can’t do this and provides a link for the Adobe Color Print Utility.

I don’t know why ACPU isn’t honoring the media you asked for, I’ve not see that on Mac OS. Are you sure you have all the driver settings updated and the inks are swapped for Matt?
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2012, 03:54:14 PM »
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I didn't even see Adobe RGB in the list of printer profiles. I would have loved to see a link to ACPU, as it was well hidden at Adobe Labs.

On my Macs I have never had a problem with ACPU. This was my first test on a Windows 7 computer. And I switched inks before printing to Matte and on the printer display it said that I had chosen the wrong ink set.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2012, 04:52:24 PM »
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I didn't even see Adobe RGB in the list of printer profiles.

Because in CS6, Adobe filters out all the RGB working spaces they install. And even if you did see it, you can’t use it if the document is assigned Adobe RGB (1998).

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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2012, 02:37:40 PM »
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Because in CS6, Adobe filters out all the RGB working spaces they install. And even if you did see it, you can’t use it if the document is assigned Adobe RGB (1998).

I guessed that, so I did my own installation of Adobe RGB. But it didn't turn up, even though the profile now was in the Profiles folder, not in the Recommended folder. So the NULL trick is dead, and it seems that on W7 ACPU doesn't work as expected. No one else that had the same experience with ACPU on W7?
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2012, 03:16:52 PM »
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So the NULL trick is dead, and it seems that on W7 ACPU doesn't work as expected. No one else that had the same experience with ACPU on W7?

ACPU works fine on Mac but can scale images so you just have to be careful. I think that might be the issue you report on Windows. And on the Mac, under Lion, the ColorSync utility can print a target untagged (with it’s own scaling oddities).

Lastly, you could just download the demo of say i1Profiler and print the targets there. IOW, you don’t need a dongle or serial number to load and print a target. Kind of overkill in terms of a download to print a target but it will work.

In CS6, even if you could see the profile, it is smart enough to pop an error if the document color space and the print color space are the same.
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2012, 03:31:40 PM »
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it seems that on W7 ACPU doesn't work as expected. No one else that had the same experience with ACPU on W7?
The only issue I've seen is the resizing of targets.
If you're hand reading these with an i1Pro it's not a serious problem, you just need to take a little more care when measuring them.
It's very poor that Adobe can't be bothered to fix this though.
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 04:17:25 PM »
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And on the Mac, under Lion, the ColorSync utility can print a target untagged (with it’s own scaling oddities).

I thought you had a problem with the ColorSync Utility. Didn't you report that there was a difference between test charts printed with ACPU and with ColorSync Utility?

But right now, my problem is with W7. If the only way we have today is to use i1Profiler we have a problem.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2012, 08:52:40 PM »
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I thought you had a problem with the ColorSync Utility.

Last check, the differences were tiny (0.2 dE between the two).
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2012, 05:37:50 PM »
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I said it before and I shall say it again: Adobe Color Printing Utility is CRAP. A 5 year old would make better, at least some posiztioning and sizing options etc.

You should use PhotoFiltre 6.5.3 Freeware
http://photofiltre.free.fr/utils/PhotoFiltre-en-653.zip

No install required just unzip and run.

Please see the attached print settings screenshot, this program prints the same as photoshop with no color management.
You can easily center the target on the page and make sure size is correct very important if you use i1isis (always tick original size).

If you use wide format printer you can tick the original size checkbox and make sure that target size is not changed too..
You can set position from top of paper to use same paper sheet for multiple tests like gamut ramp etc.


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