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« on: May 31, 2012, 09:36:41 AM »
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I saw this today, and felt a bit better about the future of the Mac Pro line.

I was really dreading a move to Windows. Only because of learning a new interface after 20+ years on a Mac.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2012, 11:30:27 AM »
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I saw this today, and felt a bit better about the future of the Mac Pro line.

I was really dreading a move to Windows. Only because of learning a new interface after 20+ years on a Mac.

We shall see what happens at the WWDC…
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2012, 01:27:45 PM »
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Per my comment previously, there is not much existing stock at the major distributors, TechData and etc.  That seems to show that they are planning a new release.  This is what happens when a new computer is due to come. Just an advance that has worked in the past.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2012, 09:07:07 PM »
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I'd like to find the source to the chart used on this page.
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2012, 10:49:57 PM »
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http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/12/05/25/mac_pro_petition_gains_traction_as_pro_users_seek_information.html

I like this page!

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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2012, 12:24:00 AM »
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Only because of learning a new interface after 20+ years on a Mac.
Given the substantial changes to the Mac desktop over that time, moving from OSX to W7 would be pretty pain free.
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2012, 06:26:40 AM »
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I really don't understand this potential "fear" of switching, in a way or another. I read that many times everywhere.

I think there is a lot of hysteria to be honest. It sounds like a shy virgen girl that sees for the first time a man's ....
Come on!

In this forum, most of the users are quite highly trained and technically skilled on complex softwares etc...and you would tell me that a switching could be difficult?

In a day maximum you're done with the adaptations.

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2012, 07:41:47 AM »
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I really don't understand this potential "fear" of switching, in a way or another. I read that many times everywhere.

I think there is a lot of hysteria to be honest. It sounds like a shy virgen girl that sees for the first time a man's ....
Come on!

In this forum, most of the users are quite highly trained and technically skilled on complex softwares etc...and you would tell me that a switching could be difficult?

In a day maximum you're done with the adaptations.

Mostly true, the few things I know I would be missing (I use Win7 10 hours a day 5 days a week) are:

OS level:
- Expose,
- very easy screen sharing with my other macs (I would probably end up changing the whole set),

Applications:
- Raw Developer,
- Pure Music,
- Transmit,
- Scrivener,
- Fotomagico,
- Potentially Final Cut Pro X because I would need to buy an expensive Adobe license.

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2012, 08:58:02 AM »
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In this forum, most of the users are quite highly trained and technically skilled on complex softwares etc...and you would tell me that a switching could be difficult?

Although my primary job is photographer, I manage a small network of eight computers, each with a primary function (server, workstation, tether station, etc.). It is far easier for me, a photographer, to manage this OSX-based network than it would if it were a network of Windows boxes. Everything is easier: installation of updates, installation of new software, drive maintenance, monitor calibration, printer calibration (although Lion has botched this). Plus, it is far easier for me to trouble shoot because of my familiarity with the product line.

I've visited/watched friends at other companies work on their Windows-based network and want no part of it.

The one thing I would enjoy, over a few pints, would be to build a workstation from the mother board up. That'd be fun, and it's not something I can do with a store-bought Mac. I've toyed with a friend's hackintosh, and if Apple bails on Big Iron, it may be a good alternative to a Windows workstation.
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2012, 12:19:34 AM »
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Although my primary job is photographer, I manage a small network of eight computers, each with a primary function (server, workstation, tether station, etc.). It is far easier for me, a photographer, to manage this OSX-based network than it would if it were a network of Windows boxes. Everything is easier: installation of updates, installation of new software, drive maintenance, monitor calibration, printer calibration (although Lion has botched this). Plus, it is far easier for me to trouble shoot because of my familiarity with the product line.

I've visited/watched friends at other companies work on their Windows-based network and want no part of it.

The one thing I would enjoy, over a few pints, would be to build a workstation from the mother board up. That'd be fun, and it's not something I can do with a store-bought Mac. I've toyed with a friend's hackintosh, and if Apple bails on Big Iron, it may be a good alternative to a Windows workstation.

I've got a Hackintosh running at home and it not only scores better on every benchmark vs a Mac Pro, it also cost 60% less to build and I was able to customize everything including overclocking.
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2012, 04:07:53 AM »
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I'm running the early 2007 MacPro 8-core with 32GB RAM, OWC SSD boot drive, 2x1.5TB Raid0 and 2x2TB Raid0. The OS has been upgraded to every new release that has come along since I bought it and is currently 10.7.4. It's my main Lightroom/Photoshop workstation. I have 2 external eSata 5 bay SansDigital Raid towers connected via a Highpoint eSata card.

I've upgraded the graphics card to the ATI Radeon HD 5770. It very fast and, more importantly, it's almost silent. The MacPro's cooling fans and drives are louder. The original ATI 1900 (I think that's the model number) was very loud when the cooling fan was running.

It runs great even though it is now officially 5 years old as of this past April. It is the first MP 8-core that my local independent Apple store delivered.

I would be interested in a new MacPro for the promise of Thunderbolt speed, but the peripherals are not readily available yet anyway, so no hurry.

A smaller form factor, if possible, for the new MacPro would be nice.

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2012, 11:31:06 AM »
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I'd like to find the source to the chart used on this page.

Apple's quarterly financial reports: http://investor.apple.com/
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2012, 12:07:00 PM »
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Given the substantial changes to the Mac desktop over that time, moving from OSX to W7 would be pretty pain free.

Pretty painful for me. I’ve done it but it isn’t something I ever look forward to.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2012, 02:10:57 AM »
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Given the substantial changes to the Mac desktop over that time, moving from OSX to W7 would be pretty pain free.

Apple admitted some years ago that, once working in an app, there was not a lot of difference between the then platforms.

The touted differences were (and are) in working with multiple apps at once, navigating and file management (also in things like packages, which are a terrific way to consolidate installers and some file formats). I haven’t used Windows since XP (teaching multimedia at a tertiary level) so can’t comment on recent updates, but things like Exposé, Default Folder, Jumpcut, Mailtab and Menutab, and others that I use every day would need very good equivalents if I was ever to switch from OSX. System-wide services and the reliability of drag-and-drop are icing on the cake.

Interesting to know what similar/equivalent system enhancements are available for Windows.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2012, 05:52:55 AM »
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It looks like there is hope for a new MacPro debut at the WWDC in a few weeks.

Check out this story on 9to5mac: http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/04/apple-to-update-most-of-its-mac-lineup-and-multiple-accessories-at-wwdc/

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« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2012, 05:55:07 AM »
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It looks like there is hope for a new MacPro debut at the WWDC in a few weeks.

Check out this story on 9to5mac: http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/04/apple-to-update-most-of-its-mac-lineup-and-multiple-accessories-at-wwdc/

Cheers.
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Actually, WWDC is in less than a week away.
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2012, 06:39:31 AM »
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WWDC starts Monday, the 11th of June.
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« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2012, 05:03:45 PM »
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The touted differences were (and are) in working with multiple apps at once, navigating and file management (also in things like

Any file management application/process less than Directory Opus (which is basically everything else) is a disadvantage :-)
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« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2012, 08:26:24 PM »
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And HERE
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2012, 02:22:15 AM »
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Mostly true, the few things I know I would be missing (I use Win7 10 hours a day 5 days a week) are:

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- Scrivener,


Scrivener for Windows is a fine product.
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