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« on: July 28, 2012, 08:36:29 AM »
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NSFW: What exactly are the laws regarding shooting teens nude?

OK, I opened up this topic at the Pentaxians. I don't know if I could have posted the original thread here. Pentaxians usually accept anything. (almost)

In any case, no concrete or even 'wet' concrete answers have been offered. I submit it for your input to this 'blind' topic.

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http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/photographic-technique/193328-nsfw-what-exactly-laws-regarding-shooting-teens-nude-nsfw.html
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2012, 09:52:44 AM »
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Like everything else it depend on the place/jurisdiction of where you live/want to do the work and/or the purpose of the pictures.

My advice? Keep away for all manner of reasons, not least the future well-being of the teenagers themselves. They can discover all manner of explosive cans of worms quite on their own.

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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2012, 08:43:57 AM »
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The young person’s mind is still developing until their early twenties, so you would be dealing with people who may not have much of an idea of what’s good, what’s appropriate etc. (plenty of adults like this too!).

If you proceed down this path, parents’ or guardians’ permission and involvement are essential. A very well-known Australian photographer Bill Henson caused a huge amount of controversy here some years back over his pubescent nudes. I consider them of less interest than his earlier work.

Risky business, to borrow a film title.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 03:58:32 PM »
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Just don't bother.  With the advent of smartphones, teens themselves have pretty much glutted the market for those kinds of images.  I think "sexting" is the term.
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2012, 12:42:47 PM »
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Law and ethics, two different thing.  The law depends on where you live, where you shoot, where you display, etc.  The ethics: don't do it.
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2012, 03:06:50 PM »
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Shooting teens nude? Is this the latest murderous episode to visit a US mall; some angst-riven college nerd, driven to strip himself naked & gun down his class-mates? Personally, outside of Texas it has to be a crime. In Texas, who knows?
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2012, 02:12:36 AM »
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The Abercrombie & Fitch catalog is almost soft core at times. I don't know the age of their models, but surely some are in their teenage years and they certainly market to that demographic with their merchandise. I have certainly found their catalog's content to not always be in the best taste at times. It was their Winter 2003 quarterly that was publicly questioned.

As others have said: Laws are one thing, ethics are another. I question the ethics of photographing anyone underage nude, unless we are talking about refugees in a camp that have no access to clothes and thus the point of the photograph is to convey the destitute situation to the viewer. Even then, I would consider if another approach could be just as effective.
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2012, 09:52:52 AM »
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Shooting teens nude? Is this the latest murderous episode to visit a US mall; some angst-riven college nerd, driven to strip himself naked & gun down his class-mates? Personally, outside of Texas it has to be a crime. In Texas, who knows?

Thanks for the humor.
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2012, 10:11:51 PM »
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If they are under 18, it is a federal offense and is likely to get you a charge of child pornography.   Make sure you get some form of ID and signed releases.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2012, 03:33:56 AM »
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Law and ethics, two different thing.  The law depends on where you live, where you shoot, where you display, etc.  The ethics: don't do it.
Absolutely, just don't do it!
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2012, 01:01:16 PM »
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One of my favorites: If you have to ask the question, then you already know the answer.
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 10:32:31 AM »
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Agree with the others, simply don't photograph minors in the nude or any other potentially compromising situation.

That said, how does one know that the person in the image posted at the Pentax forum is a minor?  There's nothing in the caption noting her age. 
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 12:03:39 PM »
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That photograph on pentaxforums.com would be considered child pornography in the U.S.. The girl appears to be well under 18 years old. I'm quite surprised, in fact, that the pentaxforums admin hasn't removed the link to the image by now.

If you took that photograph and posted it on the internet you might well have attracted the attention of the authorities. Not a smart move.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2012, 08:09:11 AM »
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Seems simple on the surface but there are some interesting ramifications in all this. In the US, if you are over eighteen and knowingly shoot and post nude or partially nude images of someone under eighteen, you can and most likely will be prosecuted for child pornography. This came up when some of my students noticed there were nudes included in the AICE (Cambridge CIE) portfolios presented from schools in Australia/NZ/and some parts of Europe where the rules are different.

My instructions were to ensure the shootee was over 18 - PERIOD and even at that to make sure they had written permission from both the parent and the model. Anyting under 17 and I would pass it on to the School Resource Deputy and suggest prosecution.

Sexting gets kids arrested al lthe time. It's not nearly as prevelent as it was a few years ago.

Art photography, nude or otherwise is wonderful art, but it's a dicey interpretation when it comes to kids. My advice is DON'T!
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2012, 09:55:52 AM »
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Good for you, Chris. Sounds as if your "what, me worry?" motto didn't apply to all situations.

Makes you wonder how Jock Sturges has managed to say out of jail.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2012, 10:34:27 AM »
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Good for you, Chris. Sounds as if your "what, me worry?" motto didn't apply to all situations.

Makes you wonder how Jock Sturges has managed to say out of jail.

Just as a note: Most phone servers will turn you in to your local gendarmes for sending pornography over their bandwidth. Sames goes for downloading illegally obtained music.

My motto only came into being when I knew I was retiring...my last year teaching was devoted to, "Hey, what are they going to do...fire me?"
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