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MacMcDade
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« on: November 02, 2012, 07:23:53 PM »
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Is there a 3rd party ink supplier that produces a high quality compatible ink for iPF6100 printers?
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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2012, 07:54:54 AM »
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I like the inks from http://www.nylisupply.com/   
I have four of them in my 8100 right now.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2012, 09:33:25 AM »
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Probably  Image Specialists inks as the Epson bulk inks show the same code IS uses.

http://www.image-specialists.com/catalog_wide_format.aspx


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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2012, 01:16:40 PM »
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I can understand the wish to reduce the cost of ink if you are a hobbyist, but these printers are probably mostly used by photographers selling their work.  If that is the case I wonder if it is worth the risk, considering ink is only one part of the cost of running these printers.  If I had ANY doubt in my mind about whether a third-party ink was exactly the same as the Canon inks, I wouldn't go near it.  Have you seen the cost of the print heads alone?  Work out the cost of buying the printer, the new heads every couple of years, the maintenance tanks, paper and ink, and then see if saving some money on the ink is going to make a lot of difference overall.

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2012, 04:35:43 PM »
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I agree with Jim even though I'm technically a hobbyist (I sell prints, but I'm low-volume - it's not my day-job).

Even if you're not worried about damaging the print heads, I've never heard anything good about the permanence of budget-priced 3rd-party inks. I'd be worried about premature fading or color shifts. I'd also be skeptical of the print quality with cheap inks, with regard to dmax, gamut, gloss differential, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2012, 07:50:40 PM »
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You need to have a tax license to buy from image specialists (at least last time I bought from them).  But, http://www.inkjetcarts.us/ sells there inks.
You can contact image specialists and they will send you sample prints.

The 3rd party inks I have used normally show more bronzing and gloss differential but I mainly print on matte paper so it is not an issue.

I will let you know that my 1st iPF5000 lasted a little over 2 years before needing printhead-hard to know if it was from the ink or not as they did not have good printheads to begin with.  My current iPF5100 also went 2 years before printhead issues.  This is harder to know if it is lack of use or the 3rd party inks.
My problem is I do most of my printing in November when I run about 1800 sheets through (1050 8x10 photo's and 750 of text), then VERY little use the rest of the year.  So, if the cause of the printhead nozzle issue is from the inks then its hard to justify the cost savings.  If the cause is lack of use then it is worth the cost savings.
Just unsure with the iPF5100 if it was lack of use or 3rd party inks to cause my most recent issue.  My usage was 1700 sq. ft. in 742 days.  Most of that was in the previous two Novembers.

Tony
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2012, 09:15:38 PM »
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Do yourself a favor and skip the third party ink. Eventually you'll come to regret the decision.
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 08:55:31 AM »
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I'm very skeptical of 3rd party inks as I've personally bought them for my letter size printer (pack of 20 colors from ebay) and used 3 blacks, replaced it to the 4th and the printer wouldn't read it.  Tried the last (5th) and it still wouldn't read.  I've worked in the printing market for 7 years and know the different ways to make sure that it reads correctly and it wouldn't.  I used the printer at least once a week and after attempts, knowing the printer is dead at that point.

Yes, you can have 3rd party inks work for a long time, depending on the usage and how well you maintain the printer; or it can hurt it within weeks to month.  It's not a guaranteed product as the OEM's are.  If something happens to the printer with 3rd party's, the manufacturer won't assist with fixing it since it wasn't their inks that did the damage.  You would need to talk to the company that makes the inks and see what they will do.  The printer may be out of luck after that point and costly to repair.

I would highly recommend sticking with OEM to be safe as the manufacturer will take the responsibility of repairing if the inks did something as they are also under warranty apart from the printer itself. 

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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 08:30:40 PM »
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Do yourself a favor and skip the third party ink. Eventually you'll come to regret the decision.

On the other hand, I've used third party inks and CIS systems in half a dozen printers from letter sized to 44 inch for over a decade and never regretted it.  If you're selling prints, you can pass on the costs.  If not, third-party inks reduce your ink costs by factor of at least three.
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