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Author Topic: Canon 100mm Macro lens Vs Hasselblad 80mm Lens  (Read 4861 times)
FredBGG
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2012, 01:44:31 PM »
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Here is a quick test I did ....

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I did a little comparison between my Fuji GX680 250mm f5.6 and the Canon 200mm F2.8L Mark II @5.6.

I used the Canon 5d Mark II for the captures. To capture the Fuji lens images I held the Canon 5D II behind the Fuji 680 body.

I expected the Fuji lens to be somewhat inferior as it is about 20 years old and has an image circle of about 200mm while the Canon has an image circle of 50mm

well it was quite interesting...

Here is a 100% crop (scaled down by Flickr) from the Fuji/Canon capture (sensor placed to the right of the lenses center):



And here is the same from the Canon/canon capture



Quite amazing how well the Fuji compares, especially considering that the Fuji is shooting at full aperture while the Canon is shooting stopped down two stops ... at 5.6 that is it's best aperture.

Here are the full frames:

Fuji/Canon capture:


Canon/canon capture


See how the Bokeh on the Fuji is nicer and you get it already at 5.6. This is important to me as I like to shoot at slowish shutter speeds so that I can get some movement such as a dress or hair in the wind.

Then if you consider ontop of that the fact that if I was using the full frame I would be closer to the bush and would have even better bokeh on the background.

Throw in the higher dynamic range of film especially in the highlights and it's a formula that I like.

And one other thing. When running the images of the Fuji/canon and the Canon/canon through the JPEG compressor the Fuji lens files always came out larger indicating that there is more information in the Fuji lens images.


One thing that this test clearly indicates one interesting thing. If you consider that the Fuji lens when using the full 6x8 frame will be projecting about 6x more information.....  well it indicated that for now only film gives you the opportunity to capture these large format images projected by these unique lenses.

Here is a diagram to show how little of the full frame the Canon was capturing:


And just to give an idea of how sharp the Canon 200mm 2.8L II is (and how damn cute my son was... he's 6'4" now Wink Shocked):


Shot at 2.8
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2012, 01:45:54 PM »
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These older MF lenses are quite remarkable, especially if you consider
how good the Canon 100mm f2.8 is...

Here is a shot I took with it in flat lighting.



Quite remarkable considering it's a macro and it's image stabalization is really damn good.
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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2012, 04:53:23 PM »
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Hi Fred,
As you can see I use Fuji lenses on different type of camera with a cut GX680 body ( here a Mamiya/P45, but I use it also on the D800e)
It works very well and Fuji lenses are really very sharp.
But...... you will be disappointed with the 50mm & the 65mm. They have a lot of CA without tilt or shift movement and not as sharp as the other lenses.
The 80mm is very good but if you need to shoot with wider lens I think you have to choose the 45mm Nikkor PCE.

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Lorenzo
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2012, 08:41:39 PM »
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Nice machine.

I've got two in the works.

One smaller and with fixed camera and one where the camera can be shifted to up to a 4 frame stitch.

I had 2 50mm lenses. The second one that had the newer matte finish on the barrel is much better than the first one.
I don't have a 65mm.

I like how you used the base of the GX680 for the body.

I'm making a base that mounts half way between the lens and camera body.

Your right though about the Nikon 45 TS. My main purpose for the D800 Fuji hybrid is to use the longer faster lenses wide open
for fashion with models on different plains. Sort of like this, but on location

No tilt



With tilt

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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2012, 09:37:17 PM »
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FredBGG
Yes, i have GX680 but i have found difficult to use tilt precise focusing on it (on contrary to 4x5" cam) and use mostly for shifts, not tilts.
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