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Question: Which image do you prefer?  (Voting closed: January 06, 2013, 08:59:22 PM)
Left image - 16 (80%)
Center image - 0 (0%)
Right image - 4 (20%)
Total Voters: 20

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« on: December 30, 2012, 08:59:22 PM »
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Hi,

If you are interested in taking part click on the link below and please and make sure you see the image in full size.

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/oranges.html

Here are some more crops from the same images:

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/flower.html

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/bokeh.html

http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/dollar.html

The "bokeh crop" surprises me, right image showing more DoF. May have to do with wavy curvature of field?

Please tell us which you prefer

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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 09:07:57 PM »
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is the 3rd one(far right).  I prefer the sharpness and less noise. I almost would take the color from the middle shot, however.
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2012, 10:01:14 PM »
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Thank you!

Erik

is the 3rd one(far right).  I prefer the sharpness and less noise. I almost would take the color from the middle shot, however.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2012, 10:47:11 PM »
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The left one: better bokeh and sharpness.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2012, 11:12:37 PM »
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I prefer the orange in the left image, and overall still marginally the left image, but I don't care for the background much in either the left or centre.
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2012, 11:14:07 PM »
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Left for isolation with good background blur.
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2012, 11:21:44 PM »
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The image on the left.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2012, 12:32:17 AM »
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Left. The distance to the background is wrong for the other 2 lenses.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2012, 02:49:57 AM »
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Hi,

Thanks for comment. Don't really understand your statement on distance to the background. Nothing moved except that tripod mount was used on two of the lenses. Distance to subject was 3.8 m from camera, so I think difference matters little.


It's interesting to see that almost all posters prefer the left image.


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Left. The distance to the background is wrong for the other 2 lenses.
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2012, 03:17:51 AM »
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Hi,

Thanks for comment. Don't really understand your statement on distance to the background. Nothing moved except that tripod mount was used on two of the lenses. Distance to subject was 3.8 m from camera, so I think difference matters little.


It's interesting to see that almost all posters prefer the left image.


Best regards
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yeah, my mistake. I am thinking of the registration distance on the back being longer so narrower angle of light to the sensor. Making the shot look the same would require a movement of the tripod. That is wrong.

So you are using 150mm fl approx for all shots. So the bokeh difference on the lettering is a parameter of the lens design not the distance. Its surprising to me as sony lenses are usually pretty good on that. Still, the hassy lens looks quite a bit better.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2012, 03:36:17 AM »
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I am much surprised that the image on the right, Sony 70-400/4-5.6 has seemingly wider DoF than the others. It's much more visible in the "bookeh crops", here: http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/bokeh.html

Exposure was essentially the same on all.


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yeah, my mistake. I am thinking of the registration distance on the back being longer so narrower angle of light to the sensor. Making the shot look the same would require a movement of the tripod. That is wrong.

So you are using 150mm fl approx for all shots. So the bokeh difference on the lettering is a parameter of the lens design not the distance. Its surprising to me as sony lenses are usually pretty good on that. Still, the hassy lens looks quite a bit better.

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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2012, 12:51:13 PM »
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The right one (Sony) has wider DOF, so as a landscaper, I would prefer it for that reason. -
It will be interesting to see a test in the corners of a full frame camera.
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2012, 01:15:12 PM »
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Clearly a Leica lens would be best - you'd be able to taste the orange
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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2012, 01:54:10 PM »
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I am much surprised that the image on the right, Sony 70-400/4-5.6 has seemingly wider DoF than the others. It's much more visible in the "bookeh crops", here: http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/Images/Zeissness_3/F8/bokeh.html

Exposure was essentially the same on all.


Best regards
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On that set I see the 70-400 looking about a couple stops higher f number. It looks like an f 5.6 to f 8 difference.

The hassy is showing chromatic aberration, not bad but definitely a distraction on specular highlights. The other 2 lenses seem properly controlled. The 200 2.8 still seems to want to form a double hard edge in the bokeh. Does that lens have a microadjuster? My 300 f4G has a ring that turns to slightly adjust the relationship between the elements.
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2012, 02:36:35 PM »
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Hi,

Yes it even adds a bit of gin.

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Clearly a Leica lens would be best - you'd be able to taste the orange
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2012, 02:54:28 PM »
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Gee, I am just hanging around with nothing interesting or useful to do, so I'll surely take your quiz. NOT. Please, give us a break.
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2012, 03:43:31 PM »
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SONY
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2012, 04:29:00 PM »
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Gee, I am just hanging around with nothing interesting or useful to do, so I'll surely take your quiz. NOT. Please, give us a break.

Grinch stole your New Year too? Wink
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2012, 04:44:58 PM »
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Voted left but right reminded me of the first 5d and how the noise like nice film grain wasn't obtrusive.
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2013, 05:16:21 AM »
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Left one for me too
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