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Author Topic: NEC NEC PA271W 27 or EIZO CG275W 27 Inch or EIZO CX270 27 Inch ColorEdge  (Read 6811 times)
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« on: January 16, 2013, 03:17:24 AM »
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Any idea's between the 3 ?




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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2013, 05:03:40 AM »
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Other than the massive difference in price the Eizo has a built in colorimeter I believe.

Personally I just purchased the NEC with the SpectraView II package and very happy with it.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2013, 03:09:20 PM »
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The contrast ratio is the same on all three, but the Eizos are slightly brighter. All three can reproduce 97% of the Adobe RGB gamut, which is very good.

The specs are so close among them that I'd be hard pressed to find a reason not to buy the NEC, given that it costs so much less than the Eizos, even after adding in the cost of a colorimeter.

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2013, 11:56:04 AM »
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I purchased an Eizo CG231 late 2011. It was the worst experience I have had in over 25 years of being in the business, nothing comes close. Terrible monitor out of the box and customer service to match. I wish I were making this up but sadly its not the case. It took over two months to get a refund and RMA to send it back. I will spare you with all of the dreaded details with customer service. By comparison I purchased an NEC PA 271 at the end of 2012 which was perfect out of the box, profile beautifully and unlike CS at Eizo, I immediately received a personalized phone call and email from NEC's customer support people letting me know they are there to help answer any questions about setting the monitor up properly.

Also worth mentioning is the SV II software which to my way of thinking is significantly better then Eizo's. This is very powerful stuff, mostly intuitive yet with so many parameters and possible iterations it boggles the mind. In other words the NEC PA series of monitors are highly recommended, very highly.

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 08:33:16 AM »
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I have an NEC 2690WUXi2. Customer service is first-rate, as is tech support. However, the color and luminosity shift considerably from edge to edge. I replaced my first monitor under warranty because of a bad power supply, and the process was painless. The second display developed a small flicker, and an unevenness in color from edge to edge - showing a gray screen, I could see splotches of magenta and other splotches of green. They replaced the second monitor with a third, which I'm using right now. There is little to no improvement in the color shift.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 09:02:23 AM »
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I've asked it before, yet to get an answer: just what does the significant increase in the price of the Eizo buy you over a similar NEC?
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 09:16:24 AM »
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Andrew - if I'm not mistaken, the prices on the Eizos have come down significantly. You can pick up a Eizo for about the price of an NEC now, at least according to B&H's site. I remember when they were several grand.

But, perhaps there are still expensive Eizos out there that BH doesn't stock?
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 09:17:24 AM »
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OK, even at the same price, why Eizo?
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 09:21:52 AM »
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Well, my NEC has had color consistency problems on a unit, and also on the replacement unit. Perhaps Eizo has better quality control? Again, I have no experience with Eizo, and people I've talked to were quite enthusiastic about the NECs. I am having a bad experience right now.

I will say, however, that their level 2 tech support people are very knowledgable and thorough. It is not at all hard to get through to them, either. They are sending me a third unit now, one they will test more extensively. Not sure why they couldn't do this for hte second one they shipped, but at least they are doing it now.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 09:53:50 AM »
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Very happy with my Eizo CG275W. Why Eizo rather than NEC? They're about the same price here in the UK and the built-in calibrator on the CG275W is neat.
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 12:01:46 PM »
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OK, even at the same price, why Eizo?
No idea about the US, but in Europe you have pay for updates to NECs calibration software. Eizo ships it for free.

I have an expensive (when I bought it) but non spectraview 21" NEC next to a stone age 17" office Eizo on my desk. The Eizo has much deeper blacks. I will definitely not get a NEC when I can afford the switch to a decent 27" wide gamut screen.

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 12:04:35 PM »
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No idea about the US, but in Europe you have pay for updates to NECs calibration software. Eizo ships it for free.

In the US, SpectraView is free for updates which is done inside the application itself. And there's also the free MultiProfiler software for PA series.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2013, 03:25:54 AM »
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(...) a stone age 17" office Eizo on my desk. The Eizo has much deeper blacks

It's probably a PVA panel, known for extremely deep blacks. Move your head a little while you look at those blacks; do they shift slightly? Then it's PVA (Eizo used PVA a lot; now they use IPS for almost everything).

IPS is generally much better and more accurate, even if the blacks aren't as deep.
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2013, 04:19:35 AM »
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It's probably a PVA panel, known for extremely deep blacks. Move your head a little while you look at those blacks; do they shift slightly? Then it's PVA (Eizo used PVA a lot; now they use IPS for almost everything).

IPS is generally much better and more accurate, even if the blacks aren't as deep.

There's an exception - EIZO ColorEdge CX240/CG246. It has an IPS panel with optical retardation film, so there's virtually no "silvering" effect on black, and it's visually as good as S-PVA in this respect.

NEC is outrageously much cheaper in US, but the rest of the world is another story. EIZO SX2462, SX2762W are now significally cheaper than NEC counterparts (PA241W, PA271W) here in Poland. New CS230, CX240/270 with CN license are an interesting option for a NEC SpectraView.
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2013, 12:12:51 PM »
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Yes, Eizo prices have dropped considerably here in Norway too over the last two years. But NEC seems to be at the same level.

Eizo CX240 and NEC PA241 both sell here for the equivalent of $1800 (current exchange rate).

Eizo SX2462 is $1300. Looking at the B&H website the US price is $1000 - so I don't understand why they are complaining over there.... Grin
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2013, 02:02:07 AM »
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No idea about the US, but in Europe you have pay for updates to NECs calibration software. Eizo ships it for free.
I'm in the UK and have never paid for updates to the Spectraview software for my 2690 Spectraview. I've always downloaded them for free from NEC.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2013, 08:09:31 AM »
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There is some software - Spectraview II - which is always free. There's another which I tried to get through a european company which has a very similar name spectra-something V, and which is free for a certain type of NEC display, but not the multisync that I have. It has some fancy icon with a woman's eye. Cool Maybe that's what AFX is referring to.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2013, 10:56:06 AM »
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I'm in the UK and have never paid for updates to the Spectraview software for my 2690 Spectraview. I've always downloaded them for free from NEC.

Same in the US. The application itself has an auto update mechanism, updates are free.
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