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« Reply #60 on: April 14, 2013, 03:06:07 PM »
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Ray the reason the diopter is not marked is because the range of adjustments means it goes through more than one revolution..

BTW when adjusting use the sharpness of the LCD readouts in the viewfinder as your reference.

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« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2013, 01:39:05 PM »
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Stupid paint job....

Black is the right color for a camera as it will be less likely to be reflected in the subject.

Also if white had some validity why not make the whole thing white as an option for those that
use it in hot sun.

Anyway the important thing is that they kept that Allesandrini waco away from the design of the H5
or else you would have a Steam Punk H5



It is not white.


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« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2013, 04:06:57 PM »
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I had my hands on it at Focus last week.

I like the look, love the screen.
The H5D50 was what I had in my hands. The sensor is exactly the same at the H4D50. Other than a few incremental changes and minor I don't consider it really any different.

As a H4D owner the only thing I would move to the H5 for is the screen. For me this isn't a big enough reason to jump.

But nice paint job.



Just to clarify the H5D improvements, it's a bit more than a paint job (#9 on my list below for the details). Whether it is worth it or not for an H4D owner is up to the individual. It's a pretty major upgrade for an H3D owner...


https://captureintegration.com/top-10-things-i-love-about-the-hasselblad-h-system/



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« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2013, 06:08:27 PM »
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Just to clarify the H5D improvements, it's a bit more than a paint job (#9 on my list below for the details). Whether it is worth it or not for an H4D owner is up to the individual. It's a pretty major upgrade for an H3D owner...


https://captureintegration.com/top-10-things-i-love-about-the-hasselblad-h-system/



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Very nice write up. Thx!
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« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2013, 06:21:42 PM »
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It is not white.


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Not white.......? Slightly off white?

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« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2013, 06:38:42 PM »
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Just to clarify the H5D improvements, it's a bit more than a paint job (#9 on my list below for the details). Whether it is worth it or not for an H4D owner is up to the individual. It's a pretty major upgrade for an H3D owner...


https://captureintegration.com/top-10-things-i-love-about-the-hasselblad-h-system/



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For auto focusing, Hasselblad has developed True Focus.
True Focus incorporates yaw rate sensor technology to measure angular velocity via the internal (APL) Absolute Position Lock processor found on H4D/H5D cameras.
It is then able to correct for vertical and horizontal focus shift that results from recomposing a camera focused on the viewfinder’s center focus point.
The H5D provides True Focus II, which builds on True Focus  by adding the ability to automatically compensate for lens curvature.

While Hasselblad likes to call the processor Absolute Position Lock true focus does not absolutely lock the position of the camera. It only detects
changes of angle. It does not detect any forward or backwards movement. When recomposing with a large camera and heavy lens there
nearly always some movement either forwards or backwards.

The addition of lens curvature compensation is useful, increases accuracy but not much help if the camera is not moved perfectly on the center point of the lens.
Adding more focus sensors would have been a better improvement.

Using the true focus recomposition information to position the zoom in of the focus check on the LCD is a nice touch.
Face recognition in image review mode would have been even better, especially for manual focus work.

HEre is a more detailed article on the limitations of Truefocus... by Hasselblad.

http://www.hasselbladusa.com/media/2234814/when%20true%20focus%20makes%20a%20difference.pdf

It is an article on True Focus of the H4d so there is nothing about lens curvature.
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« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2013, 12:57:36 AM »
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Gee Fred, not sure how often I have seen you link to that article by now but it is safe to say too often. Nope true focus does not work when you move the camera in a lateral way, neither can you take good pictures when you leave the lens cap on. I have not seen you link articles towards ths strange phenomena.

As an OWNER and USER of a H4 I can tell you I think TF is one of the major selling arguments of the H4/5 and it really works well when you use it right.
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« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2013, 02:02:27 AM »
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Gee Fred, not sure how often I have seen you link to that article by now but it is safe to say too often. Nope true focus does not work when you move the camera in a lateral way, neither can you take good pictures when you leave the lens cap on. I have not seen you link articles towards ths strange phenomena.

As an OWNER and USER of a H4 I can tell you I think TF is one of the major selling arguments of the H4/5 and it really works well when you use it right.

Could not agree more.
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« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2013, 02:37:23 AM »
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As an OWNER and USER of a H4 I can tell you I think TF is one of the major selling arguments of the H4/5 and it really works well when you use it right.


I sold my MF system because my Mamiya's AF focus was just not compatible with my sloppy way of using a camera.  So I'm happy to hear that Hassy keep making theirs better. In fact I hope to pick up a used H4 once the prices fall (another 2 years?).

At the moment, I am using Canon gear to take portraits of my kid in available light, and the big problem is *quickly* getting accurate focus while preserving composition The image below is with a $250 kit composed of a geriatric preowned 400D and a 50/1.8, at some horrible ISO that would be impossible with an MF system, and it is *manually focused*.

I've moved up again from the small Canon because I like AF, and I got a junkyard 1Ds3 which by using the my old 135/2 gives me the same results as the Rebel, with fast lowlight AF, at 10x the price Smiley However, the consumer Canon probably cost me about 1% of a new MF system, and I'd say it still has better autofocus than the Mamiya.

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« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2013, 03:09:29 AM »
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You will find that sloppy usage of a camera is perfectly fine for TF, as long as you can put the sloppiness into wrist movements. Focussing with the center and doing a sloppy wrist movement is exactly what will do the trick.
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« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2013, 06:34:11 AM »
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Not white.......? Slightly off white?



It's silver.
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« Reply #71 on: April 16, 2013, 05:06:05 PM »
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Not white.......? Slightly off white?




I guess you haven't held one. If you sit it down next to a MacBook Pro, it is the same identical color scheme of silver and black. If you put an Apple logo on it, you'd swear it was an Apple product.


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« Reply #72 on: April 16, 2013, 07:15:24 PM »
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Gee Fred, not sure how often I have seen you link to that article by now but it is safe to say too often. Nope true focus does not work when you move the camera in a lateral way, neither can you take good pictures when you leave the lens cap on. I have not seen you link articles towards ths strange phenomena.

As an OWNER and USER of a H4 I can tell you I think TF is one of the major selling arguments of the H4/5 and it really works well when you use it right.

On the last part I agree with you. It works well when used within it's limits.

What do you mean by lateral movements? Do you mean re composing left to right?

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« Reply #73 on: April 17, 2013, 04:52:37 AM »
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I guess you haven't held one. If you sit it down next to a MacBook Pro, it is the same identical color scheme of silver and black. If you put an Apple logo on it, you'd swear it was an Apple product.


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Haha, if it were an Apple product, it would be half the size and weight, have a retina screen, be compatible with all iDevices, etc. Think a cross between a Leica S, Credo and IQ2.

Actually, that doesn't sound so bad, of all the companies that could have bought Hasselblad, Apple had just the right amount of pretentiousness and disposable income to have really taken them in the right direction.

On the last part I agree with you. It works well when used within it's limits.

What do you mean by lateral movements? Do you mean re composing left to right?
I think he meant to say "diagonally", true focus only works when you recompose vertically or horizontally, but not both at the same time, unless Hassy fixed that with the H5D.
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« Reply #74 on: April 17, 2013, 10:56:24 AM »
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Haha, if it were an Apple product, it would be half the size and weight, have a retina screen, be compatible with all iDevices, etc. Think a cross between a Leica S, Credo and IQ2.




That could be whole thread in itself - "If it were an Apple product....."


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« Reply #75 on: April 17, 2013, 11:07:25 AM »
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H-Blad are taking full page adverts for the aspirational bauble sony-wood-polished aluminium camera in the 'how to spend it' magazine supplement of the sunday times. so they probably see themselves as far more exclusive than apple and are perhaps seeking financial salvation at the luxury end of the market.
IIRC it was placed upon a Luis Vuitton travel case so maybe there is a future mutual marketing drive there?
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« Reply #76 on: April 17, 2013, 01:31:39 PM »
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If it was an Apple product it would have Thunderbolt connectivity.

That could be whole thread in itself - "If it were an Apple product....."


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« Reply #77 on: April 17, 2013, 02:04:02 PM »
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If it was an Apple product it would have Thunderbolt connectivity.

Is that good or bad?  Smiley
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« Reply #78 on: April 17, 2013, 09:51:55 PM »
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If it were an Apple product you would owe Apple 30% of every file sale Smiley

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If it were an Apple product you would owe Apple 30% of every file sale Smiley

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Yup... they would suck your blood....

That's it the iBlad  or was that the iBled
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