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« on: February 01, 2013, 06:37:24 PM »
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Alcatraz -- 1968
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2013, 05:43:42 AM »
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Very nice, I like it.

It lacks complexity in a couple of ways, some good, some less good, I think. None *bad* though.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2013, 11:12:04 PM »
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Very nice... definitely marks a specific 'place in time'.

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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2013, 08:25:03 AM »
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Afraid it's a bust, Stamper and Seamus. Looks as if everybody wants to go out and shoot non-threatening cats, landscapes, and yarn.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2013, 04:36:52 PM »
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It's the weekend, Russ; everybody is asleep even when awake.

Tomorrow's another day, as you and someone else declared quite recently...

;-)

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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2013, 04:54:41 PM »
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Shot from Ghirardelli Square, from the look of it.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2013, 05:23:18 PM »
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....non-threatening?    
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2013, 06:34:26 PM »
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Very nice Patricia. And Doug, right on. Ghirardelli Square -- long ago.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2013, 10:24:33 PM »
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I enjoy  the concept of the photo and find it interesting to look at. It's possible it might be more interesting (tense) if the figures weren't in the tone range they are now, which is to my eye a bit muddy. Either lighter to see some expression, or dark all the way to silhouette might be more engaging.
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2013, 05:57:17 AM »
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It is interesting to consider the location and the date together. This was a notorious year in San Francisco, and here we seem to have some of Old San Francisco enjoying a little conversation (enjoying?) in one of SF's newest retail establishments, built in and on the site of a San Francisco institution from the turn of the century.

With the date and the title, it becomes a document of a moment of transition, I think.

Without it, it's still pretty darn good, but as far as I can see it's pretty much a nice composition with a hint of street.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 06:57:23 AM »
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Ok it was my suggestion. Smiley I went out on Saturday with little success. Got bawled out by someone for taking an image of a busker. The usual "you shouldn't be taking photos of people in the street". This is my best effort at an entrance to a park.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 07:23:47 AM »
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One from a while back. Not sure if it qualifies for Street, though I am sure if it isn't then I will be informed otherwise. Smiley Drinking and smoking in an underground railway station. Smoking is prohibited. I was glad there was a rail track between me and the "ladies". Glasgow "ladies" can be brutal if they get you. Grin
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2013, 07:48:23 AM »
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And another. Ambiguous?

All alone.
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2013, 08:14:58 AM »
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Last but not least.

Hurrying home.
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2013, 08:39:57 AM »
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Good shooting Stamper. The guy behind the tree makes #1, and #4 is a fine shot, ambiguous enough to fall into my own definition of street. #2 reminds me a bit of Garry Winogrand's "World's Fair, New York City, 1964" (http://www.getty.edu/art/gettyguide/artObjectDetails?artobj=53834&handle=li). I don't see ambiguity in #3, but it's a fine environmental portrait.
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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2013, 08:48:05 AM »
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Russ I know that you think ambiguity plays a big part in street but it isn't the only definition that applies? From what I have read in the last week in various internet sites and books Street has a wider definition to a lot of photographers and can't be pigeon holed down to ambiguity. I agree ambiguity is a good definition. Thanks for the feedback.
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2013, 08:51:41 AM »
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Good shooting Stamper. The guy behind the tree makes #1, and #4 is a fine shot, ambiguous enough to fall into my own definition of street. #2 reminds me a bit of Garry Winogrand's "World's Fair, New York City, 1964" (http://www.getty.edu/art/gettyguide/artObjectDetails?artobj=53834&handle=li). I don't see ambiguity in #3, but it's a fine environmental portrait.

Russ I don't know if you noticed but there is a woman in front of him in #1 I didn't notice her at first. The tree mostly hides her and I couldn't isolate her. Without them moving into the picture I wouldn't have posted it and I didn't want to crop them out. As to #3 then a black face in a sea of white faces is possibly ambiguous? The white faces don't appear to notice her moving through?
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2013, 09:29:31 AM »
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I do think ambiguity is the main element that converts a documentary photograph into a street photograph, but I know there are a lot of people who don't make a distinction, in other words who feel that a documentary shot made on the street is street photography. At that point all I can do is suggest you can't understand the distinction without having studied the great street photographers. And, as usual, I always come back to the difference between HCB's street photography and his photojournalism. It's a fine line, and a subjective line, and I know there are many who disagree with me, but I'll stick with my definition even though I don't always agree with myself. I've included an example. Is this picture ambiguous enough to be called a street shot? I think so but I can see reasonable arguments against the idea. In the end I come down to Justice Potter Stewart's approach to pornography: "It's hard to define, but I know it when I see it."

Maybe it doesn't matter, but if you surrender the point then practically anything shot on the street can be called street photography. Not long ago there was a forum that claimed to be a street forum but that defined street as anything on the street or in an urban setting. The stuff that got posted mostly was either pathetic or hilarious. When that became clear, instead of changing their definition they changed their name.

Didn't notice the woman in front of the guy behind the tree. Now I see her. I don't think she detracts from the ambiguity enough to make the picture straight documentation. As far as the black gal among the sea of white faces is concerned: First, I can't be sure those are all white faces. Looks as if there might be a darker kid in the background. Second, integration has succeeded in the United States so completely that a black face in a white crowd or a white face in a black crowd doesn't look unusual to me. Fifty years ago it might have.
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2013, 02:19:56 PM »
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I was glad there was a rail track between me and the "ladies". Glasgow "ladies" can be brutal if they get you. Grin
Actually as I look at it again Stamper, they caught you!
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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2013, 02:21:05 PM »
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