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« on: February 28, 2013, 07:55:11 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2013, 10:54:58 PM »
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Very interesting composition, in my opinion, but on my monitor, I cannot see any real blacks. Maybe, you need to increase the contrast?

Also, the tops of the trees are too close to the horizontal centre line and I would crop half the sky out because the top half of the sky does not have much interest and, getting rid of it, will give prominence to the lines/rows in the ground which is what you seem to have focused on (and which I think contain the most interest).
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 07:28:57 AM »
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An opinion: I see a lot of nice whites, solid but not glaring, solid blacks and a good representation of all your middle grays. I see a very strong horizontal plane in the foreground, and a strong vertical plane, midway with a lesser, though still strong horizontal line in the sky...so for grins and giggles, I did a crop accordingly: left to right, up and down, left to right.



To me, the rest of the sky wasn't doing much for me. I am quite sure there will be many dissenters, but that's what makes this forum so interesting.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 08:18:16 AM »
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An opinion: I see a lot of nice whites, solid but not glaring, solid blacks and a good representation of all your middle grays. I see a very strong horizontal plane in the foreground, and a strong vertical plane, midway with a lesser, though still strong horizontal line in the sky...so for grins and giggles, I did a crop accordingly: left to right, up and down, left to right.



To me, the rest of the sky wasn't doing much for me. I am quite sure there will be many dissenters, but that's what makes this forum so interesting.

I like your version, it is simpler and I agree that the rest of the sky wasn't adding anything interesting to this photo. In fact, I think that the rest of the sky was breaking the other "lines".
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 08:38:06 AM »
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I like this, and Chris' crop. Too bad about losing those glorious clouds, but I think it works.

Another quibble: the tree tops don't look as sharp as the foreground, but that seems to be a common problem with trees as landscape elements.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2013, 08:48:52 AM »
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Very nice. It looks like Rhine II Wink

I am a little thrown by the fact that this occupies a territory between abstract and, um, not abstract. I have no problem with the treeline being centered. The image falls neatly into quarters, on three horizontal lines. While not as graphically fortuitous as thirds, what are you gonna do when there are in fact 4 regions of interest?
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2013, 09:15:04 AM »
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Nice to see you back, Andy.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 09:21:34 AM »
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Rules, rules, rules, we don't need no stinking rules. Or at least that's the story I keep hearing. And in concert with that sentiment, what difference does it make if the tops of the trees are near the centerline of the picture? In the first place, it's a square format, according to the rules that implies stability and peace. So why not have the tops of the trees at the centerline? That rule-breaking innovation adds to the stability and peace.

And Roger, looks as if your monitor needs calibration if you can't see any "real" blacks.

Don't hack it, don't crop it, don't clone it. It's just fine the way it is. After all, it breaks some rules. That alone should make it good. Right?

Good shooting, Robbie. Andrew's right. It goes beyond just recognizing a worthwhile subject. It borders on abstract, but good abstract.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2013, 09:35:32 AM »
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Have to go against you on this one, Russ. It is not a square crop 828 x 900. I wasn't concerned about any stinkin' rules...have I ever been. I was more looking at repeitive patterns that I thought might lend themselves in that fashion instead of including everything.

My original crop shown below was a square crop and while it did follow the nice rule of thirds by centering the trees in the middle quadrant, it was still not overly exciting to my eye....In the end, it is his eye which matters the most.

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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2013, 10:49:11 AM »
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I try to crop very sparingly (so that Russ won't beat me up). But this time I agree with Chris's crop, and I was going to suggest something similar. With the crop, the clouds now are delineated mostly by horizontal lines that echo (somewhat) the shadow lines in the foreground. The image becomes a much stronger statement about "lines," IMHO.
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2013, 11:43:23 AM »
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Here's the crop I had in mind!!!

I agree there are good blacks in the image—my eyes were tricking me.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2013, 12:32:20 PM »
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It's not a bad picture, Roger, but it's a different picture.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2013, 01:46:15 PM »
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It's not a bad picture, Roger, but it's a different picture.

Agreed, but it is a picture that brings out more of what the photographer's title suggests he wanted to show, I suggest.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2013, 02:38:38 PM »
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I'd suggest that what the poster wanted to suggest is what he suggested in the picture. After all, his title was "Sky Lines." If you take out the sky that sort of suggests that you didn't understand what he was suggesting.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2013, 02:55:30 PM »
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Nice to see you back, Andy.

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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2013, 06:51:57 PM »
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I'd suggest that what the poster wanted to suggest is what he suggested in the picture. After all, his title was "Sky Lines." If you take out the sky that sort of suggests that you didn't understand what he was suggesting.

I think I kept all the lines there were in the sky Grin.  But you are right that I thought the lines in the title are the lines in the land because they are in such sharp focus and the tops of the trees and the clouds do not seem as sharp to me. Irrespective of the title's apparent reference to lines in the sky, the lines in the land are what gets most of my attention in this image.

They are intriguing to me because I do not know what causes the different bars of tone.
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2013, 07:00:05 PM »
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Have to go against you on this one, Russ. It is not a square crop 828 x 900. I wasn't concerned about any stinkin' rules...have I ever been. I was more looking at repeitive patterns that I thought might lend themselves in that fashion instead of including everything.

My original crop shown below was a square crop and while it did follow the nice rule of thirds by centering the trees in the middle quadrant, it was still not overly exciting to my eye....In the end, it is his eye which matters the most.



This a probably the best crop, although a little less crop would work also.

Otherwise I like a lot.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2013, 11:37:09 AM »
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I'd suggest that what the poster wanted to suggest is what he suggested in the picture. After all, his title was "Sky Lines." If you take out the sky that sort of suggests that you didn't understand what he was suggesting.
Forgive me for seeing the humor in this discussion. I don't know if Russ was intentionally trying to be funny, no disrespect. I have to agree that the OP was the OP and I respect that, so I'm with Russ on that. But the question I have relates to the versatility that this photograph seems to have with respect to cropping and how it changes the "picture." Is this a hallmark of a terrific photograph?
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2013, 11:57:11 AM »
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I don't know if Russ was intentionally trying to be funny. . .

Actually, David, I was trying to make the point funny to get the point across. And don't worry about being disrespectful (which you weren't). Having spent six years as mayor of my city I'm not at all sensitive to verbal jabs.
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2013, 12:01:57 PM »
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Actually, David, I was trying to make the point funny to get the point across.
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