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« on: March 04, 2013, 06:00:37 AM »
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Phase One IQ260, IQ280, and Achromatic - 11 Things to Know

1. Holy Dynamic Range Batman - Increased to 13 stops
2. Long Exposure has Returned with the Phase One IQ260
3. Achromatic Has Come to the IQ2 Series
4. Wireless Viewing, No Computer Needed
5. Remote Operation of the Camera
6. Remote Review and Color Tagging
7. Wireless Works With Any iOS Device
8. USB3 is Fast
9. Wireless Works to TV
10. Sample Files Will be Available Soon
11. You Can See One In Person Starting in a Week

Edit: modified to exclude GPS Geotagging which is still pending as of July 12, 2013.
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 06:18:45 AM »
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So there is a half stop of increased dynamic range?
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 06:24:06 AM »
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So there is a half stop of increased dynamic range?

Correct. IQ280 compared to IQ180 will be half a stop increase. IQ260 vs IQ160 will be a half stop increase.

The IQ180 had a smidgen more dynamic range than the IQ160 and this will be true with the IQ2 series as well: the IQ280 will have a smidgen more than the IQ260.
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 06:30:46 AM »
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Looks like they've also updated the back release button too... that switch had better be harder to actuate too.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 06:32:41 AM »
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•   Long exposures - up to one hour...

What does this mean for the P45+, the current long exposure king?  Does the inevitable high pricetag of !Q2 mean the P45+ value remains relatively unchanged?
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2013, 06:39:36 AM »
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Doug,

Will there be an IQ240?

Thanks, Joris.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 06:39:48 AM »
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•   Long exposures - up to one hour...

What does this mean for the P45+, the current long exposure king?  Does the inevitable high pricetag of !Q2 mean the P45+ value remains relatively unchanged?

I'd say the market price of the P45+ will remain in demand for many years to come. The IQ260 does now offer long exposure, and does so with a base ISO (in long exposure mode) of 140 which makes it a powerful replacement for a P45+.

However, they are in such different pricing brackets that I don't know if the market price of the P45+ will be that affected.

Certainly I expect that we will be buying many P45+ units as part of upgrades to IQ260 units (for those who wanted the IQ but needed exposures longer than 2 minutes). Which is good because P45+ units became VERY hard to come by.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 06:40:23 AM »
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Will there be an IQ240?

There isn't in this announcement. That's all I can say for 100% sure.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 06:42:13 AM »
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If i had 20 000 usd i would trade in my h3dii-39 for a iq160 once the price comes down. But i dont see that happening any time soon.
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 06:48:43 AM »
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That is obviously the next question.  For most people the price of MFD is the main hurdle...  I assume no prices have been announced yet...?
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 06:49:20 AM »
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So there is a half stop of increased dynamic range?
Knowing the way Phase markets the DR of it's cameras, it may actually be more than it seems, the IQ180 was rated as 12.5 stops, but DxO says 13.6 stops. This is probably because 13.6 is the absolute DR down to the noise floor, while 12.5 is what Phase considers "usable". If this is so, the IQ2xx series should have around 14 stops of DR, but at which ISO?

Edit: From GetDPI: "Prices start at 29990 EUR / 39990 USD."  Embarrassed
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 06:54:01 AM »
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And - is the USB3 working now ?

For the rest of it: Wireless - YES That´s definitely an upgrade !
Congrats, that was what was needed !

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And - is the USB3 working now ?
Read on GetDPI that USB will work out of the gate on the 2xx series, and is almost out on the 1xx

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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2013, 06:59:14 AM »
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But I thought MFD was dead?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2013, 06:59:46 AM »
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And - is the USB3 working now ?

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=75935.0

USB3 working out of the gate with IQ2.
Firmware for IQ1 now in final testing, available through your dealer as beta now.
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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2013, 07:01:00 AM »
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But I thought MFD was dead?  Roll Eyes

Yes, and development of sensors has come to a stand still. :-)

O, except for the six new sensors, and three sensor technologies Team Phase One + Dalsa has developed in the last five years.

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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2013, 07:02:20 AM »
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Knowing the way Phase markets the DR of it's cameras, it may actually be more than it seems, the IQ180 was rated as 12.5 stops, but DxO says 13.6 stops. This is probably because 13.6 is the absolute DR down to the noise floor, while 12.5 is what Phase considers "usable". If this is so, the IQ2xx series should have around 14 stops of DR, but at which ISO?

Yes, suffice it to say that DxO's definition of and method of measuring dynamic range is not the same as Phase One.
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« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2013, 07:08:42 AM »
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Yes, and development of sensors has come to a stand still. :-)

O, except for the six new sensors, and three sensor technologies Team Phase One + Dalsa has developed in the last five years.


Not to mention the fact that you look at pretty much any behind the scenes video from a high-end photo shoot and you'll see it's about 70-90% MFD being used, despite what some people here like to think. My only complaint is that we're now on the second generation IQ-series and still no real new camera in sight.
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2013, 07:14:40 AM »
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Not to mention the fact that you look at pretty much any behind the scenes video from a high-end photo shoot and you'll see it's about 70-90% MFD being used, despite what some people here like to think. My only complaint is that we're now on the second generation IQ-series and still no real new camera in sight.

Just because today's announcement is for new digital backs doesn't mean it's the only thing Phase One is working for (no big surprise here, considering the CEO already publicly announced they are working on an entirely new body).

However, if you haven't used the DF+ you should give it a whirl: it's significantly more improved IMO than the "+" would indicate.

O, and in case there was any doubt the IQ2 will come in all the standard mounts: Mamiya/Phase, Hassy V, Hassy H, and Contax.

Something about mixing an IQ2 with an iPad on a Hassy 500 seems very steam-punk to me.
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2013, 07:17:53 AM »
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Just because today's announcement is for new digital backs doesn't mean it's the only thing Phase One is working for (no big surprise here, considering the CEO already publicly announced they are working on an entirely new body).

However, if you haven't used the DF+ you should give it a whirl: it's significantly more improved IMO than the "+" would indicate.


I'm sure it is, but I'm still holding out for the completely new one. I'm not much for incremental upgrades.
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