a lot of vociferous words here. In a way, I can understand them.
Personaly, I don't feel absolutly attacked nor concern by homophobic puritan. I think Fred readed selectively what he wanted.
My best friend is gay, 2 of my very good friends are gays, I've been working many times with gays, I'm actually invited to their homes and parties
and always had great respect, and received the same respect from them.
I am one of the very few men that is allowed and welcome to enter in a private lesbian bar here, and I've been helping many times some gay or lesbian
in their carreer acheivement or personal problems and also received help from them.
Actually, you might know a Little less than I do the gay world. If you knew it, you'd know that "gayish" is a term they actually use themselves as "falling into" when
they tend to fall-or been trapped into a certain kind of parade. Themselves, use frequently those expressions for describing certain type of things.
A gay person would have actually smelled perfectly what was the real meaning of my thoughts in the context I was describing.
As puritan, I won't talk about my private life here, but...well...if I'd say to people who know me: "hey, this guy told me I'm puritan", I think everybody would fall laughin in tears.
But that's not the point, as I said, I don't felt concerned by those attacks, it's like Fred was talking about someone else, so no objection,
no problem, nothing wrong. Fred doesn't know me personaly and couldn't know from where I was using certain words and why.
I can understand why such a visceral reaction from him (or someone else). Then, If someone responds with agressivity or harshness, (whatever the subject is, whatever the person is, it's the person's concern).
Fred used the lenguaje he feels like to, according to what he understood or wanted to understand of my post. Actually the points that Fred was making on my "evil" post were not the ones I was trying to explain. Nothing to do with Testino talents and merits. Nothing to do with hard work. Nothing to do with people having fun and having good time, nothing to do with MT recognition and sweetness others feels with him, nothing to do with the quality of his pictures etc etc...none of the points Fred mentionned had something to do with what I was talking about. But I won't re-write differently in order to precise better my points and try to be understood. That would be loosing time and turning arround concepts that have nothing to do with the thread.
As I don't write in my native lenguaje, well, that's what is and it's always a risk to be misinterpretated. (if I see that even between same native lenguaje posters misinterpretations are legions...so)
Everything's perfectly fine for me. No offense felt. Not concerned.
Precisions made and time to move on.
Who do you think you are fooling trying to wiggle your way out of this one.
What you said was very clear...
baroque, gayish, snobish lite lite lite...ridiculously corny; watch specialy the end, MT negligible is telling all; the photos were good, but that's what's arround that stinks.
You denigrate Mario Testino as gayish, snobish.. rediculously corny and in the same sentence say it STINKS.
You go on to call it decadent.... and this is the video you were talking about...http://www.vogue.es/videos/mario-testino-y-vogue-espana/1707
If you could actually understand what was talked about in the video you might have caught
that it was a wrap party of the issue of Vogue Spain that he shot, but not only
was he the photographer but he was the guest director of the issue.
That is what I call being on top of the game. World class photographer and invited to direct an issue of Vogue.
You call this party decadent, say gayish stinks and then want us to believe you are some sort
of career advisor for gays and the darling of a private lesbian bar.
Who do you think you are kidding. It's typical for idiots that let their real bigotry show
to try to cover it up like you are.