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« on: March 20, 2013, 10:33:16 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2013, 11:06:35 AM »
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I like it and can almost smell oil and grease!

Well done!
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2013, 11:13:33 AM »
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Superb, Chris! Framing, composition, tonality.

A suggestion: see if slightly toning down the highlights in the far left, on the wheel and his hand, might help, by not attracting too much of our attention, and then leading us out of picture? And perhaps just slightly more details pulled out on his cap by lightening it, so that it stands out from the bumper? In both cases, changes should be rather gentle.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2013, 11:52:04 AM »
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Superb, Chris! Framing, composition, tonality.

A suggestion: see if slightly toning down the highlights in the far left, on the wheel and his hand, might help, by not attracting too much of our attention, and then leading us out of picture? And perhaps just slightly more details pulled out on his cap by lightening it, so that it stands out from the bumper? In both cases, changes should be rather gentle.

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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2013, 01:06:46 PM »
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Anyone here remember Herb Ritts?

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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2013, 01:09:16 PM »
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AhHA! That's where I remember that strange skin texture from! Good call, Rob Wink
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2013, 01:11:41 PM »
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Lots of grease and an ISO of 6400 will get you that.  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2013, 02:59:38 PM »
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You come up with some excellent suggestions, Slobodan!

Chris, that second version is definitely an improvement.

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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2013, 03:50:43 PM »
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You come up with some excellent suggestions, Slobodan!

Chris, that second version is definitely an improvement.

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But I don't think so this time.

You could apply that psychology to everything in every snap and kill it dead in the doing. Think of Gene Smith and Pittsburgh: never has the bleaching of highlights been used to greater effect; Vogue and Harper's - all of these piccy frames have shown the value of highlight overkill! In this shot, it's the guy, not the wheel; the wheel only adds a bit of minor context and is perfectly and subliminally understood with or without glow or highlight recovery. If anything, making the rim 'detail' more visible only serves to deaden the overall contrast and make a murky/dirty shot even more so.

I think it was better first time.

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P.S.  I don't believe that Ritts ever shot 'simple' after he became living legend. Now, we shall never know.
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2013, 04:22:08 PM »
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Nah, I like the second better, richer arm tones (but then I dont' like GS' bleached highlights either).  For me this is all about the richness of the tones.
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2013, 04:23:40 PM »
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Rob, I think we are talking from different angles here. I have nothing against blown/bleached highlights per se. It is their position in (the very corner) that bothers me, given that the brightest parts of an image are the first to attract, and sometimes hold, the attention. Couple that with the position and angle of the arm, seemingly pointing out of the picture, and you will understand why my attention very quickly ends up in that corner and stays there longer than necessary, not knowing where else to go but out.

Speaking about "murkiness," I might suggest, after taming the highlights on the hand, to now brighten, if ever so slightly, the arm (or bring it back to its original state).
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2013, 04:56:23 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2013, 06:11:31 PM »
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That's it (to me)!
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2013, 06:20:40 PM »
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grmblemrbleurbmurmmer

They say Leo Tolstoy would vomit on occasion, while writing, struggling to find the right way to express himself... you, on the other hand, having to go only through three iterations, got away way too easy, my friend  Grin
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2013, 06:45:15 PM »
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That's it (to me)!

Good, cause that's it for me, too!  Grin
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They say Leo Tolstoy would vomit on occasion, while writing, struggling to find the right way to express himself... you, on the other hand, having to go only through three iterations, got away way too easy, my friend  Grin

No-no-no, you only saw three iterations... there were six prior to the first post so this makes nine iterations ...and you never even saw this one...

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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2013, 07:05:49 PM »
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Good, cause that's it for me, too!  Grin
Been there, done that! But Slobodan has other ideas Wink
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« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2013, 09:45:32 PM »
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I  prefer the original rendition. It is a raw....image and the light is perfectly suited to the subject matter and composition
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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2013, 09:54:35 PM »
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All good.

I once had to spar with a guy that had arms like that. Now I remember why I decided photography was a more sensible hobby.
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