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« on: April 07, 2013, 01:40:52 PM »
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Has anyone seen this beast in the wild yet?

My replacement Sig 35 1.4 USM seems to be slow on order so I might cancel for this T/S lens if it is good. Recent Samyang lenses have a good reputation.

T/S functionality would be a big benefit to me.
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 01:43:26 PM »
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Has anyone seen this beast in the wild yet?

My replacement Sig 35 1.4 USM seems to be slow on order so I might cancel for this T/S lens if it is good. Recent Samyang lenses have a good reputation.

T/S functionality would be a big benefit to me.

The release date was pushed back to May I believe. I've been looking for early reviews but haven't found any yet.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 05:27:29 PM »
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I am curious about this lens, but will wait for quite a while, as I am thinking about buying a Canon 6D for my first digital FF camera. Drat this Gear Acquisition Syndrome. I should not read detailed reviews.
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2013, 12:05:53 AM »
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Hi,

I have one on order since october. They are supposed to become available early may.

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I am curious about this lens, but will wait for quite a while, as I am thinking about buying a Canon 6D for my first digital FF camera. Drat this Gear Acquisition Syndrome. I should not read detailed reviews.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2013, 10:23:59 AM »
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There may not be reviews until people actually get the lenses in hand once it starts shipping.  I contacted the N.A. distributor about getting a loaner to do a review and they responded saying that response has been so strong the lens is oversold and they have none to provide for review purposes.  Can't verify validity, but that's what I was told.
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013, 12:21:20 PM »
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I got the same message from the distributor Bob.
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 12:36:08 PM »
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If it's a good lens you would think that they would designate some for reviews in order to get positive press. However, if you are pre-selling a high number who needs positive reviews. I want the lens but I won't order until I see some real world results.
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2013, 06:42:23 AM »
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At least they're consistent, Ellis.  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 02:01:11 PM »
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I've seen pics and rather poorly worded verbage from Samyang (probably translated) that suggests that this lens will have independently rotatable tilt and shift. I hope this is the case. I'd much rather have that capability than the electronic coupling of the Nikon PC-E's. Do any of you know whether or not the tilt and shift mechanism is relatively fixed on this lens?
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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2013, 03:58:20 PM »
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The review I read said it is independent. Given it is a manual lens that is much easier then something to move an AF powered lens group while tilt/shift is used.
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2013, 06:52:03 PM »
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The photos also make it very clear that T and S are independent...I'm looking forward to my BH order to be fulfilled...  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2013, 05:34:59 PM »
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I saw one (possibly the only one) at Photokina in Cologne in September. It looked a well made piece of kit but they wouldn't let me play with it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2013, 03:54:34 PM »
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This is a Samayan 24mm TS lens sample page from Lenstip.com

I think is not a very good test or the lens is very bad. See for yourself and comment.

http://www.lenstip.com/2043-news-Samyang_T-S_24_mm_f_3.5_ED_AS_UMC_-_sample_images.html
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2013, 04:26:38 PM »
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Damnation! Shifted that lens is terrible. Can it possibly be that bad?
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2013, 05:43:43 PM »
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Or is that bad or the guy accidentally tilted the lens..
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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2013, 06:49:42 PM »
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On some of the photos there are 2 set, one set with shift only that are sharp edge to edge and another set where he has deliberately tilted the lens to go for the miniature effect.  Look for 2 photos with F8 for example and you'll see the difference.  He has not made any effort to take photos with a tilted focal plane to get near and far in focus.
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shifted but tilted OOF
http://pliki.optyczne.pl/sam24TS/2/sam24k_fot10.JPG
shifted only
http://pliki.optyczne.pl/sam24TS/2/sam24k_fot16.JPG
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2013, 08:18:18 PM »
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Oh I see the second one you posted looks alright. Just needs some sharpening.

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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2013, 04:57:55 AM »
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Seems soft at f5.6 without any movement applied.

Difficult to know how well the focus was adjusted, but these samples are far behind what the Canon 24mm T/S and Nikon 24mm T/S can achieve when used correctly.

Part of it could also be the strength of the AA filter on the 1ds3 though, not sure.

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2013, 05:22:10 AM »
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I think sharpened pictures are easier to compare. I think they shoot hand-held too (seen the shadow of the photographer in some other of their wide angle test shots, and not shooting at base ISO for these samyang test shots suggest hand-holding), so I don't think they're really into maximizing the quality in their test shots, unfortunately.

The Samyang has as many lens groups/elements as the Canon TS-E 24II and thus a bit more than the Nikon PC-E, hopefully this means that it's a highly corrected lens which exceeds Nikon PC-E performance so the D800 gets a better tilt-shift lens. But it's not only about design, it's about precision in manufacturing too. It shall be very interesting to see what it can do together with the D800.
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2013, 02:43:55 PM »
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Hi,

I tried some sharpening, but it seems that the images are out of camera JPEGs, they don't sharpen well.

Best regards
Erik


Seems soft at f5.6 without any movement applied.

Difficult to know how well the focus was adjusted, but these samples are far behind what the Canon 24mm T/S and Nikon 24mm T/S can achieve when used correctly.

Part of it could also be the strength of the AA filter on the 1ds3 though, not sure.

Cheers,
Bernard

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