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geesbert
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« on: April 09, 2013, 04:15:09 AM »
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I searched around and couldn't find a solid answer.

How can you make those two work together?

What I found is that it doesn't seem to be possible to use the focal plane shutter, but the leaf shutter works. Which kind of lens do I need then? I guess CFi, but I am not shure.

The rationale to get a 203 over a 503 would be the build in meter. I don't need automatik modes nor bracketing, simple manual metering off the folding finder would be great. A 500th s is good enough for me.

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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2013, 11:07:17 AM »
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Hasselblad makes/made both 45 and 90 metered(PME) prisms, which can work on the 503CW fine.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/479256-DEMO/Hasselblad_42297_Prism_Viewfinder_PME45.html

I use the PM45(not omission of 'E' because it doesn't have the internal meter, on my 503CW bodies, and its very nice. But I meter externally mind you.

Unless you're only using the WLF, then in that case the metering is internal on the 203fe

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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2013, 11:32:59 AM »
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Using a WLF with metering in a Hasselblad body is what intrigues me....
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2013, 01:57:50 PM »
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Using a WLF with metering in a Hasselblad body is what intrigues me....

Yup way better with a waist level finder. Those old HAsselblad Prisms are low magnification
and critical focus for the resolution of a MFDB would be tricky as hell.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2013, 08:58:31 PM »
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It is possible to use phase backs on the 200 series camera but you need a wake up cable switch which can be set in a hold position.  ( using this method no cable is needed to lens )

Sequence goes like this.

Zero latency mode,  -  Set switch, take picture, unset switch

The downside is you have to tape a switch to the camera.  The camera also does a dark frame for the time the switch is open.

It works but it's not elegant.
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2013, 08:36:28 AM »
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do I also need this wake-up cable when I am using the camera in leaf shutter mode? or will a regular sync cable suffice?
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2013, 09:57:04 PM »
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The cable switch I use for focal plane shutter operation, is the one used to trigger the entry level canon dslr camera. I found it has same jack as goes into phase one back.  The switch can operate as push button or can be locked open like switch.  It only cost a few dollars. You can use it for both normal latency and zero latency on digital back.

When using lens shutter and For digital back in normal latency mode you need to send wake up signal before sending open close of shutter signal.   I use the phase one sync cable which plugs into x sync on lens and  has a little button on plug.  You push this button to send wake up and then the lens shutter opening and closing sends next signals required.

Also phase one v back has a way of reading a little leaver which pushes out from camera into a slot into the digital back. This gives wake up signal.  On my camera this did not work so I used method above. If this works you only need sync cable.

It's not as complex as it sounds. Just try all methods and see what works for you
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2013, 02:58:11 AM »
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Also phase one v back has a way of reading a little leaver which pushes out from camera into a slot into the digital back. This gives wake up signal.  On my camera this did not work so I used method above.

Is this a problem with your camera or with the 200 series?

To rephrase my question:

Can I use a 203fe with a phase p45+ in leaf shutter mode like I would with a 503cw, with the regular sync cable, without the wake-up-button procedure, just with the benefit of a built in meter?

Sorry for being impertinent, but I still can't get my question answered.
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2013, 09:08:17 AM »
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What I was told is that some of the 200 series hasselblad cameras used a slightly different material finish on the little lever that pushes into the phase one digital back. The phase one back will not recognize this lever so will not give the wake up.

So in summary it works on some 200 series cameras and not on others. Best to try the camera and make sure that you get one that works.


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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2013, 09:34:01 AM »
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http://www.phaseone.com/Search/Article.aspx?articleid=1556&languageid=1

As described in this thread you can also make a 200 work with a focal plane lens by providing it both the wakeup and trigger signals yourself. It's a workaround that only makes sense (to me) for tripod based work or non-spontaneous hand-held work, but technically it does work.
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