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« on: April 15, 2013, 02:36:56 PM »
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Check out the Lightroom Journal for more info.

The LR 5 is at Adobe Labs.
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2013, 02:40:19 PM »
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Finally we can now see how everyone works with and likes/dislikes Smart Previews. Game changer or not your cup of tea?
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2013, 02:55:44 PM »
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WHAT???
no snowleopard support anymore???
not amused
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2013, 03:01:30 PM »
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no snowleopard support anymore???

Nope...10.7 and above only because LR5 requires OS level services that are not there in 10.6.x.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2013, 03:06:42 PM »
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Dwnloading it, description on LRJ looks great, Ca't wait to use it on some portraits and beauty/fashion images.
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2013, 03:09:49 PM »
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I'm downloading now, I like the description of new features.  Can't wait to play around with them.
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2013, 03:11:30 PM »
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Check out the Lightroom Journal for more info.


The LR 5 is at Adobe Labs.
I am already in the process of setting this LR5 Beta up so I can give it a try.
Going to use an extra USB 3 external drive to store the images so not to mess up anything up with my main catalog.

Jeff will you and Michael be producing a new video with LR5?
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2013, 03:55:59 PM »
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Hi all,

when trying to create a new catalog, Lr 5ß 1 crashes   Sad.

OS is Windows 8 64-bit with all MS fixes applied.

Lr 4.4 runs great.

Robert
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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2013, 04:30:38 PM »
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No issue creating a new catalog in Win 7 64
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« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2013, 04:43:47 PM »
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WHAT???
no snowleopard support anymore???
not amused
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me too, not amused...
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2013, 04:47:01 PM »
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Jeff will you and Michael be producing a new video with LR5?

Yep...Mike and Chris are coming to Chicago early May to shoot it...note however, the plan is to produce a "LR5 Upgrade" video, not reshoot the whole LR4 tutorials...Because a lot of the features are essentially the same except for the LR5 new features. More news about this soon from Chris!
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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2013, 04:50:10 PM »
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Downloading now...

The new perspective, level, ... corrections look awesome...

The new spot removal on steroids looks quite interesting also...

Personally, not very interested in the oval mask, but I can understand while a huge amount of people are interested on it...

Nice that you three (Michael, Jeff, and Chris) are starting to record new videos Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2013, 04:56:22 PM »
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Initial thoughts with Lr5 Beta

Spot Healing Tool - it's changed obviously.  You can kind of draw the shape you want.  

Pros

1.  You can customize the shape
2.  The "visualize spots" option is convenient and seems to work well
3.  Have the ability to clone out some items as long as the surrounding area fits it pretty well

Cons

1.  You don't have a lot of control (size, shape, opacity, clone, heal).  That seems like enough, but "heal" will let the object you are trying to remove show through.  Clone generally doesn't match texture very well, so you see the spot.  Some amount of "feathering" would help here I think.

2.  The "matching" engine sometimes chooses something wildly inappropriate for the area (this is when attempting to clone out something).

Overall it's a nice addition with improved functionality.  I put it through a difficult test, but I think for simpler edits it may work just fine (taking a leaf out of the sky for example).  I don't think it will keep you out of Ps if you have any heavy cloning/manipulation to do.

LAB color reading

SO happy to have this, I understand the coordinates much easier than looking at RGB percentages.  Way to go Adobe.

Radial Filter

Seems to work by isolating what's in the filter, though I haven't played with it extensively yet.  Example, surrounding and object with it then decrease exposure.. everything around the filter decreases exposure.  Your object remains the same as before.  It does seem to feather the adjustment from the edges in.  I can see this working pretty nice in certain situations.

***Edit:  You can invert the behavior.  I had an idea to use it to "fix" a sky where I used an CPL on a wide angle lens.  I have to say, it works pretty darn good.  You have all the same functions you would with a normal graduated filter.


Performance seems about the same overall, although I only imported about 50 images to play with.  I'd say it's a worthwhile upgrade so far.
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« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2013, 05:08:14 PM »
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I am still puzzled as to why so many people rush to provide free software testing to a multi-billion dollar corporation. I am paying for this program and I expect it to work properly right from the start. If you want me to test your new software, I will send you my rate sheet. Otherwise, bugger off.
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« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2013, 05:16:19 PM »
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Hello Peter,

I think it's pretty simple.  We both "pay" for the software.  Personally, I'd rather pay for something I might have had a small part in making better and/or more suitable for my own selfish needs vs. paying for well.. you get what you get.  I don't think I'm getting cheated, I've written plenty of code in my life... and I'm paying for the nicety of not having too.  Of course, opinions vary. 

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John
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2013, 05:24:52 PM »
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Personally, I'd rather pay for something I might have had a small part in making better and/or more suitable for my own selfish needs vs. paying for well.. you get what you get. 

Agree, well said!
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2013, 05:42:08 PM »
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Yep...Mike and Chris are coming to Chicago early May to shoot it...note however, the plan is to produce a "LR5 Upgrade" video, not reshoot the whole LR4 tutorials...Because a lot of the features are essentially the same except for the LR5 new features. More news about this soon from Chris!

Thanks Jeff.  Will be looking forward to the upgrade video as I always find theses videos you guys produce very helpful.

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2013, 05:43:41 PM »
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If you want me to test your new software, I will send you my rate sheet. Otherwise, bugger off.

Nobody is twisting your arm to download and test the public beta, right? I mean, it's not like Adobe put a gun to your head? So, I wonder who it is that should bugger off?

Personally, I like to test new software before the software is released because it allows me to learn, in advance, how my tool will work once I get the final retail release. The functionality in LR5 offers useful improvements to usability and image quality.

The beta is not really intended for production work and existing LR catalogs can not be upgraded (although the beta catalogs and previous catalogs will be able to be upgraded in the final GM release).

So, test, don't test...that's up to you (and no, I don't think you should send your rate card off to Adobe, I really doubt they need your input).
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2013, 06:16:09 PM »
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Can you run both simultaneously - 4.4 and 5? I'm hesitant to install it if I won't also have a stable version on hand. Some of the new features sound great.

Sharon
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2013, 06:23:56 PM »
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Can you run both simultaneously - 4.4 and 5? I'm hesitant to install it if I won't also have a stable version on hand. Some of the new features sound great.

Sharon

Absolutely, although I don't have them running at the same time.  I copied a few images from my Lr4 catalog to a separate location, and imported them into the Lr5 beta catalog to mess with.  Installing Lr5 Beta doesn't interfere with Lr4 in any way that I can tell.
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