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« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2013, 12:49:51 AM »
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Mark, my apologies for not mentioning your outstanding work as well. You are completely right.
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« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2013, 09:34:58 PM »
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Found a beautiful paper MOAB Somerset Museum Rag
I searched  Ernst Dinkla's list for papers with relatively flat spectral responses (thanks Ernst!)
Bought a few samplers and fell in love with this paper great feel, weight and texture
Oh yea details and color are superb for a matte paper
I appreciate all the positive inputs
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« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2013, 05:57:13 PM »
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I only print with Matt and for B&W mostly I love:

HFA Museum Etching (textured B&W)
HFA Photo Rag 308 (Smooth B&W and colour)
Epson cold Press Natural (textured B&W and colour)
Mueso Max (colour)
Fotospeed Nat text (A very respectable cheaper option)

Alos like HFA German Etching, William Turner and a number of the Canson papers
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« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2013, 10:30:59 AM »
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Schewe: why are you so often grumpy/cranky? A little patience goes a long way. Instead of snapping at people that post general or unsophisticated questions, take the opportunity to be a benevolent mentor. Everybody feels better and a Socratic dialog has a better chance to ensue. ... Just 'sayin.
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« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2013, 11:43:26 PM »
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What's your favorite ink color on your favorite matte paper?
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« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2013, 03:07:44 AM »
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What's your favorite ink color on your favorite matte paper?
White! Smiley Marc
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« Reply #46 on: June 08, 2013, 10:19:59 AM »
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I've stuck with Hahnemuhle Ultra Smooth over the past few years, favoring the detail and relatively high white point. Most of the time I'm happy with the slightly warmish tone, but is there anything out there that's whiter and without OBAs (Hahn indicates "moderate" OBA) with close to the same smoothness?

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« Reply #47 on: June 08, 2013, 11:38:41 AM »
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I've stuck with Hahnemuhle Ultra Smooth over the past few years, favoring the detail and relatively high white point. Most of the time I'm happy with the slightly warmish tone, but is there anything out there that's whiter and without OBAs (Hahn indicates "moderate" OBA) with close to the same smoothness?

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Merrill
Haven't tried it but Innova Smooth Cotton High White 100% Cotton 315gsm IFA 14 looks like one worth trying
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« Reply #48 on: June 08, 2013, 01:11:13 PM »
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I read (on dpreview, I think) that some people had trouble with the Innova with paper feeding; torn edges, ruined corners. And as others have mentioned, Ultra Smooth does have curling problems. Decurling to run it through the sheet feeder on my 3880 can be a major hassle. But the results are worth it.

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« Reply #49 on: June 08, 2013, 01:45:30 PM »
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I am  using innova ifa11 and ifa14  both sheet and roll and no problems on epson 4900.
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« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2013, 06:32:55 PM »
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“What’s your favorite Matte paper?”

Well it depends on the application and who is in charge of the process.
A case in point  --- a non-profit group wanted me to do an initial run of 1,000 greeting cards.

I had some Epson Enhanced Matte, which did not excite me in the least, so I showed them a sample plus the same image on 3 other good papers.

Guess what !! 3 out of 3 chose the Epson EM without any consideration to cost. Now I have to buy some more of the stuff.

Remember it is the client who is in control, so long as they pay.
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« Reply #51 on: June 09, 2013, 05:48:18 AM »
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I'm a big fan of MOAB Entrada Natural 300gsm. I buy it in rolls to use on Epson 7600 and 7800 printers and made a profile myself using a Colormunki.
I print colour, a mixture of landscapes and portraits, from scanned 4x5" and 6x7cm negatives. I love the white point of the paper and it seems to hold the ink very well compared to the more expensive rag papers. My alternative paper would be the standard Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308gsm, but I prefer the MOAB because it's double sided an flattens off the roll easier as a consequence – I never print on the reverse. I'd also say that I like the bright white version, but can't in all conscience use it when selling to museums and collectors because of the optical brighteners.
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« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2013, 05:02:36 PM »
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Firstly, thanks to all who wrote paper product reviews for LuLa. This is a worthy topic, although the lack of printer model limits the answers somewhat. I am a printing newbie - Epson Premium Photo Luster is the one and only paper I have used. I am looking forward to testing sessions of 3880 vs Epson, Ilford Galerie, Ilford Mono Silk, and Hahnemuhle sample packs (I went wild at the photo store this weekend Wink  ). I am also looking at converting a Epson 1400 to monochrome piezography, so that's another batch of testing sessions. I was pleased to note at my local photography store a photo swatch book of Canon Pixma Pro printer and a large variety of papers. Even though the printer is a different brand, the papers' color and texture are evaluable.

Awaiting my pre-ordered Schewe Digital Print book...
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« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2014, 09:55:56 PM »
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I just came across this thread.  Wow....  I just received a copy of Schewe's book "The Digital Negative" from Amazon this morning coincidently.  After seeing his belligerent response and the FU attitude he displayed here I put the unopened box back in the mailbox "return to sender".  I like to think my money goes to nice people.  With an attitude like he has displayed I've lost all interest in what he has to say and will find another book instead. 

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« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2014, 08:53:22 AM »
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If you thought that this was bad social behavior you should go over to "how is that subscription service to adobe working out". There is plenty of ego driven bad absolutely non-constructive criticisms there. Point being...some of our brightest or most knowledgeable just have bouts of  bad behavior in these forums at times. Personally I am happy to see others push back nicely like I see in this thread against this behavior. "Be the change you want to see!" None of us are perfect / we all can benefit from constructive criticism / maybe kinda new age but a little love being present in there actually is a sign of a thoughtful person giving feedback that may actually be accepted. Meanness in criticism = less likely to be heard and with good reason.
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« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2014, 09:06:04 AM »
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I just came across this thread.  Wow....  I just received a copy of Schewe's book "The Digital Negative" from Amazon this morning coincidently.  After seeing his belligerent response and the FU attitude he displayed here I put the unopened box back in the mailbox "return to sender".  I like to think my money goes to nice people.  With an attitude like he has displayed I've lost all interest in what he has to say and will find another book instead. 

Keith

I think you should reconsider. I found his Digital Negative and Digital Print book two of the most helpful books in those areas.
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« Reply #56 on: April 18, 2014, 10:20:42 PM »
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"Meanness in criticism = less likely to be heard and with good reason. "

Wow again.  You think the simple exercise of my free will to not buy his book equals "meanness".   Now I'm thinking you are a bigger jerk as he is.  Its interesting that you criticize me for complaining about his rudeness, but you don't complain to the person being rude in the first place.  You are the reason I hate these internet forums.  I would never participate in them except once in a while there is useful information amongst all the noise and obnoxious nonsense.  I liked the original question from the OP and found it not only appropriate but useful.  I just wish people like you and Mr. Schewe would find a life and leave the rest of us alone.

Keith
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« Reply #57 on: April 19, 2014, 07:26:00 AM »
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"Meanness in criticism = less likely to be heard and with good reason. "

Wow again.  You think the simple exercise of my free will to not buy his book equals "meanness".   Now I'm thinking you are a bigger jerk as he is.  Its interesting that you criticize me for complaining about his rudeness, but you don't complain to the person being rude in the first place.  You are the reason I hate these internet forums.  I would never participate in them except once in a while there is useful information amongst all the noise and obnoxious nonsense.  I liked the original question from the OP and found it not only appropriate but useful.  I just wish people like you and Mr. Schewe would find a life and leave the rest of us alone.

Keith


I could be wrong about this, but I don't think Gary was referring to you. I think what he was saying is that when a person introduces meanness into criticism (as some people in this forum do) people may ignore the point of the criticism.  He was writing that these other people should temper their language -- not your decision to buy Schewe's books.  Kind of agreeing with you about what goes on with these forums sometimes.

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« Reply #58 on: April 19, 2014, 10:26:16 AM »
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Thank you RachelleK -
"I could be wrong about this, but I don't think Gary was referring to you. In think what he was saying is that when a person introduces meanness into criticism (as some people in this forum do) people may ignore the point of the criticism.  He was writing that these other people should temper their language -- not your decision to buy Schewe's books.  Kind of agreeing with you about what goes on with these forums sometimes."

you describe what I believed I was doing. Kholt got something I did not intend, didn't even think could be taken that way, and prefer not to be taken that way.
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« Reply #59 on: April 19, 2014, 01:43:17 PM »
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Fair enough.  My apologies.

Keith
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