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« on: June 06, 2013, 01:35:50 PM »
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There has no doubt been many types of fonts, on paper and on-screen, as well as swathes of server space, employed in discussing the following. Anyway, here's my contribution.

1. You manipulatively juxtapose any object(s) - animal,vegetable,mineral - at a location, vis-a-vis aspects of that location (form, colour, light, shadow) and, using natural light and/or your light(s), make technical adjustments (unless preset), frame it and capture it.

2. You come across a personally pleasing juxtaposition of any object(s) - animal,vegetable,mineral - at a location, vis-a-vis aspects of that location (form, colour, light, shadow) or, indeed, the location itself and, using natural light and/or your light(s), make technical adjustments (unless preset), frame it and capture it.

3. You wait, hoping to see a personally pleasing juxtaposition of any object(s) - animal,vegetable,mineral - at a location, vis-a-vis aspects of that location (form, colour, light, shadow) or, indeed, the latter alone and, using natural light and/or your light(s), make technical adjustments (unless preset), frame it and capture it.

From beginners to those with a high level of technical skill and/or artistic, visionary ability as well as the linguistic fluidity to describe how you go about it, perhaps as an aid to improvement for others, your modus operandus, let's face it,  falls into one, if not scaling proportions, of these 3. IMHO of course.

Is there also philosophical merit in discussing which of the 3 has greater intrinsic value for artistry and creativeness?

Number [1] would seem to get the vote on that score, insofar as you have done all the work - natural light aside perhaps.

However, the value of "seeing" and the related elements of composition -form, colour, light, shadow - ranks high in judging the final outcome so that links more with [2] or a ratio (60/40) with [3].

And what about linking the m.o. of those revered names from the photographic "canon", living or dead, with one or more categories?

Could a certain European, Leica toting person dismissive of [1] as quoted from a book - "Manufactured or staged photography does not concern me." - be linked more with [2] or with [3]?

Does another of his quotes help - "To take photographs means to recognise, simultaneously and within a fraction of a second, both the fact itself and the rigorous organisation of visually perceived forms that give it meaning." ?

And - sorry about the 'e' - there is a quote from one Andre Breton: "...put himself in a state of grace with chance, so that something might happen, so that someone might drop in."

All due respect, as they say, and a wish for even a fraction of that ability, but perusing the pages within screams out a high percentage of: right time, right place.

It has been said that you make your own luck.

Perhaps there ought to be a 4th category.

4.  J.F.
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2013, 01:43:14 PM »
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http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=74139.msg598464#msg598464
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2013, 01:52:53 PM »
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Is there also philosophical merit in discussing which of the 3 has greater intrinsic value for artistry and creativeness?

I'd much rather go to the pub for a beer.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2013, 01:55:48 PM »
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A man after my own heart ;-)

(Especially now that SommerBrau is back.)
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2013, 02:15:52 PM »
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Thinking like that before you lift you camera out of its box would induce paralysis.

If you need to think like that after you've picked it up, just put it back down and go join Riaan at the bar.

Rob C
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2013, 04:13:55 AM »
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Could apply to other things in life too -

1.  You spy out a location, dig a shallow trench, build a small bench over the trench, construct a hide around the bench and attach a roll holder to one of the walls, wire up a light for use in the dark, go into the structure and sit on the bench, aim and release the shutter.  Result.

2.  You spot a small structure in the woods, you check it's currently unoccupied, you go into the structure and sit on the bench, aim and release the shutter.  Result.

3.  You are in the woods, you crouch down somewhere with a good view and release the shutter.  Result.

We could discuss the philosophy about which method is the best, but clearly sometimes it just comes down to an intuitive decision by the artist, and it's the final result that counts.  I've tried all three (well perhaps the first was not quite as elaborate) and it just depends on how much time one has on hand to plan these things.

Jim
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2013, 11:39:03 AM »
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I had a juxtaposition once, but my doctor was able to remove it.
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2013, 12:12:45 PM »
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Could apply to other things in life too -

1.  You spy out a location, dig a shallow trench, build a small bench over the trench, construct a hide around the bench and attach a roll holder to one of the walls, wire up a light for use in the dark, go into the structure and sit on the bench, aim and release the shutter.  Result.

2.  You spot a small structure in the woods, you check it's currently unoccupied, you go into the structure and sit on the bench, aim and release the shutter.  Result.

3.  You are in the woods, you crouch down somewhere with a good view and release the shutter.  Result.

We could discuss the philosophy about which method is the best, but clearly sometimes it just comes down to an intuitive decision by the artist, and it's the final result that counts.  I've tried all three (well perhaps the first was not quite as elaborate) and it just depends on how much time one has on hand to plan these things.

Jim



Jim, are you giving advice here about outdoor toilet construction?

Rob C
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