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« Reply #60 on: July 24, 2013, 02:22:53 PM »
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Or not. Basically the trick of knee and recovering in post is complex

He had the over exposed girl that he said could not be got back - I'm far convinced by that statement

And it's kind of important cos its basically a question about the latitude of the camera..

And if you don't know your post you don't know your latitude ..
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« Reply #61 on: July 24, 2013, 08:15:46 PM »
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And if you don't know your post you don't know your latitude ..

Morgan,

I dig the one man band thing.   Wish I could pull it off because I think my life would be a lot easier.

Also I fully understand going with a camera that can shoot one file, get it close in camera, grade it, cut and deliver.

And as much as I dig the RED1's I gotta admit that the workflow isn't the easiest thing in the world.

Tonight I had to burn out 15 files, for transcription and forgot and relabeled the RDC folder in shot order.

Ooops, everything was find except two files don't have sound.  I found it, retrieved it, linked it and off I went, but for a few moments it's a heart stopper.

The thing is the RED can scare you sometimes.   We've never lost a shot (knock on wood) have them checked and we recheck them after every shoot, but when you open a folder and see 6 r3d raws instead of one it makes you sweat a little. (it does this for long clips).

It all works as planned, but you can't use standard tools like I-view to drop in files, organize, rename and go.

So my point is I see your point on the F5, though I gotta admit, until Sony proves there ready to step up with no fooling around with their hobbling a system to move you up, I'll wait.

But I really, really do hope the R5 is everything you want.

Let me know.

Thanks

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« Reply #62 on: July 25, 2013, 12:47:29 AM »
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I'm not sure how 16 bit 4k raw at 120 or more fps is hobbled?

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« Reply #63 on: July 25, 2013, 04:55:39 AM »
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I'm not sure how 16 bit 4k raw at 120 or more fps is hobbled?




In the digital world there is always a what if.

The sony looks good on paper, but the proof is in the file.  They and everyone talks about film like look from the $1,000 to $40,000 cameras.

But . . . I really do hope the F5 works for you though it's 16 grand for the body,  plus and 5 grand for the 4k storage box, (which is to come), 5 grand for the oled viewfinder, and a "Z" mount lens at 10 grand.

That's $36,000 or so, and that's a lot of coin.  Heck I bough two GH3's and Olympus and a box of lenses and didn't top 6 grand and have touch screen autofocus.

Even dropping the lens form the F5 equation this is beyond Red 1 territory and weighs as much, as I can get an R1 with Nikon mount and lens to about 8 1/2 pounds.

Not saying it won't work, but there is those dirty little words, "to come".

I've been there, done that, bought cheap and expensive and there is always another shoe to fall.

I'm glad the F5 is here, it helps all of us, wish it was the fs100 price (where I really believe the high end price should reside) and btw: whatever happened to the fs700 4k upgrade?

Anyway, I kind of get the feeling that Sony and (more companies to come) looked at RED's price list and went ah-ha, that's the magic number, or better/worse looked everyone in the digital world's annoiunce to deliver process and said "announce something first like 4k, we'll figure it out later" cause they'll wait for the tires, they already bought the car.



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« Reply #64 on: July 26, 2013, 04:58:51 PM »
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My set up would be to buy the naked body

Use my Nikon glass rig monitor and batteries

Offer clients to rent the recorder if they needed it

Same price as a c300 or  5k cheaper than a shoot able Scarlet..
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« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2013, 03:14:35 AM »
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My continuing investigation into the F5 involved getting some files from another tester..

What do I think of them? certainly in a different class to the FS100!

http://www.sammorganmoore.com/backlot/grade-test-playing-with-the-sony-f55
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« Reply #66 on: August 27, 2013, 12:57:45 PM »
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My continuing investigation into the F5 involved getting some files from another tester..

What do I think of them? certainly in a different class to the FS100!

http://www.sammorganmoore.com/backlot/grade-test-playing-with-the-sony-f55

Ps: I liked the short video you did
On 3d LUT node placement on Resolve. It's a cool
Approach and in general quite nailed in practise:
1 pre grade - lut - and a fine tuning post lut grade.
But the interesting trick you mentionned is pre-placing
The nodes first and going backwards from the Lut node.
Well done Morgan.
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« Reply #67 on: August 27, 2013, 01:36:10 PM »
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Ps: I liked the short video you did
On 3d LUT node placement on Resolve. It's a cool
Approach and in general quite nailed in practise:
1 pre grade - lut - and a fine tuning post lut grade.
But the interesting trick you mentionned is pre-placing
The nodes first and going backwards from the Lut node.
Well done Morgan.


I put placed the LUT as the last node because it seems a LUT is destructive - ie if a LUT clips then the info is gone.. so it has to be in the last node

I didnt make that too clear in the vid cos it is complex to explain, illogical and I am not a tutor just a baby in Resolve trying to make it feel like C1 Smiley

 
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