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« on: July 25, 2013, 12:29:05 AM »
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Apropos of an old topic about clichès, I saw these images, an example of how sometimes you can meet them head on for the very reason that they are clichès -

http://johnpfahl.com/pages/newpermutationspages/17villacipressi.html

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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2013, 08:36:37 AM »
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And many clichès have become clichès because they are worth a second or third look.

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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2013, 02:48:47 PM »
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Not so much clichè as the explicit recreation of an 18th century style.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2013, 03:30:26 PM »
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Cliche or not...just shoot it. Don't quit before you start.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2013, 02:48:06 AM »
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At the risk of growing further into my GOM1 cliché, let's get the accent right  Wink

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« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2013, 04:02:43 AM »
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Jeremy why don't you go onto a forum - if one exists- for punctuation and grammar and complain about the fact the members can't take good photographs? Grin
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2013, 11:01:54 AM »
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At the risk of growing further into my GOM1 cliché, let's get the accent right  Wink

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Why would you want to have the source dry up? I can exist for hours on such excitement - almost has the kick of a straight Coke! It's getting progressively difficult for us GOMs to find nourishment in this sterile world of digitally corrected spelling!

Gosh, there used to be a place for experts in the world, but even we they have suffered at the hands of Wiki which renders the terminally dull into virtual reality savants of the first degree. Nimble fingers, and who needs Oxbridge? But, the downside: remove the plug or the battery and nemesis comes to say Hi!

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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2013, 12:19:18 PM »
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Jeremy why don't you go onto a forum - if one exists- for punctuation and grammar and complain about the fact the members can't take good photographs? Grin

What makes you think I don't?

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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2013, 01:41:24 PM »
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At the risk of growing further into my GOM1 cliché, let's get the accent right  Wink

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Thank you, Jeremy.
I am properly embarrassed.   Embarrassed

I confess I copied-and-pasted from the OP's text in order to get an accent at all. I should have grabbed an "é" from Wordperfect.
That was an acute error, and I feel your pain grave-ly.

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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2013, 02:04:06 PM »
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Thank you, Jeremy.
I am properly embarrassed.   Embarrassed

I confess I copied-and-pasted from the OP's text in order to get an accent at all. I should have grabbed an "é" from Wordperfect.
That was an acute error, and I feel your pain grave-ly.

Eric



Eric, serious question: don't US keyboards - or British, for that matter - have accents available? I've only had experience of the Spanish ones (currently) that allow for many, and an ancient UK laptop whose configuration I don't remember anymore. The very first one I had was a cast-off Mac, but it didn't do Internet.

With this one - an acer - I can't find the sign for UK pounds (currency) although the almighty dollar is available, and when I get into Photohop, try to use the T tool there for captions, many normal signs vanish or turn up in unexpected locations.

So clever, but so limited, too, these modern tools.

I wonder why this apparently simple demand is so neglected - can't be because they can't do it!

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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2013, 03:45:15 PM »
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Rob, I don't know about keyboards in Britain, but here in the U.S. we use Windows alt codes for accented vowels: You can see a list of them at http://symbolcodes.tlt.psu.edu/accents/codealt.html. To use one of them you hold down the Alt key and type the number on the numeric pad. For instance, to get "é" I held down the Alt key and typed 0233.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2013, 03:49:16 PM »
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Rob, I don't know about keyboards in Britain, but here in the U.S. we use Windows alt codes for accented vowels: You can see a list of them at http://symbolcodes.tlt.psu.edu/accents/codealt.html. To use one of them you hold down the Alt key and type the number on the numeric pad. For instance, to get "é" I held down the Alt key and typed 0233.

Ugh!

On a Mac, there are two ways of getting accented characters (apart from a few, such as ç (option-c), which can be typed directly). Either type option-accent, then the character to be accented (so option-i for a circumflex, option-e for an acute accent, etc); or, since Lion (I think) press and hold the key until a pop-up menu appears, then click or type the number underneath the character.

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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2013, 03:49:57 PM »
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Thank you, Jeremy.
I am properly embarrassed.   Embarrassed

I confess I copied-and-pasted from the OP's text in order to get an accent at all. I should have grabbed an "é" from Wordperfect.
That was an acute error, and I feel your pain grave-ly.

Amends made  Cheesy

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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2013, 05:34:53 PM »
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I used to use the Alt-codes back in MSDOS days, but I don't keep a list of the codes right by my computer. When I do need them, WordPerfect has a nice table built in that is easy to access, and I can get whatever I need that way when I'm not being too lazy.

Anyway, with the table that Russ provided a link to I can now reproduce every cliché in the book (but never a clichè or a cliché). And I can even translate my last name into the more modern Norwegian spelling: Myrvågnes (although the name dates from before å was introduced to the Norwegian alphabet, so the use of it is somewhat of a Þ ("Thorn") in my side.

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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2013, 02:27:21 AM »
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Gom.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gom

Which definition do I pick out of that lot to describe the last few posts? I can't believe that I am posting with respect to the last few posts. A comma above an e has become a subject for debate. Senility has finally set in. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2013, 03:07:14 AM »
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Thank you, Russ; I've copìed out the ones that I would sometimes wish to use.

Writing to the bank is a pest when one can't write £'s; it's also handy to be able to wrrite 38° when the temperature demands!

Thank you again for my new-found computer literacy! Now, if I could but educate my two typing fingers...

;-)

Rob C


P.S. And thanks Duncan; you see how broadly useful LuLa turns out to be?
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2013, 11:52:11 AM »
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Gom.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gom

Which definition do I pick out of that lot to describe the last few posts? I can't believe that I am posting with respect to the last few posts. A comma above an e has become a subject for debate. Senility has finally set in. Roll Eyes
It's a tossup between #7 and #9, in My Exalted Opinion.

But Stamper: You're not old enough to be as senile as Rob or Russ or me.
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2013, 01:23:43 PM »
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Gom.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gom

Which definition do I pick out of that lot to describe the last few posts? I can't believe that I am posting with respect to the last few posts. A comma above an e has become a subject for debate. Senility has finally set in. Roll Eyes

7, of course, as I indicated. And as you well know, it's not a comma: commas go under cs  Wink

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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2013, 01:24:27 PM »
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But Stamper: You're not old enough to be as senile as Rob or Russ or me.

How do you know? Nor am I, for that matter, but I'm working on it.

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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2013, 02:06:26 AM »
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7, of course, as I indicated. And as you well know, it's not a comma: commas go under cs  Wink

Jeremy

Jeremy you may be good at punctuation ...but less so at recognising sarcasm. Grin
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