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« on: September 13, 2013, 04:20:29 AM »
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Arri has a new camera, onboard pro-res at many qualities.
http://www.arri.com/news/arri-amira-unveiled/

Sony have upgraded the F5/55 line..
-audio levels off the menu and onto the pot.
-2k S16 mode - crop sensor - this is great for those looking for a bit more DOF and some practical zoom lenses (like me!)
http://community.sony.com/t5/F5-F55/NEW-Firmware-timeline-charts-and-new-information-September-12th/m-p/181017#M5626

Also Davinci Resolve 10.
Im guessing that it is cool but they still dont quite get it Smiley

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2013, 03:31:33 PM »
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At 2K not a rich enough Princess for Michael  Grin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amira


Also:

''SanDisk has introduced the Extreme Pro CFast 2.0 memory card, the first of its kind. The card boasts read speeds of up to 450MB/s and write speeds of up to 350MB/s, and will be sold with 60 or 120GB of storage. As a competitor to the Nikon-backed XQD standard, this first CFast 2.0 card is introduced alongside with an ARRI AMIRA documentary-style camera that records to internal CFast 2.0 cards. Users of some models of ALEXA XT cameras will also be able to use the new CFast 2.0 cards with an adapter.''

''Durability and Reliability

... created to withstand real-world exposure to temperature, shock and vibration, and include a pinless design, which lessens the chance of damaging the card or camera while changing cards''
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2013, 08:10:56 AM »
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Arri has a new camera, onboard pro-res at many qualities.
http://www.arri.com/news/arri-amira-unveiled/

Sony have upgraded the F5/55 line..
-audio levels off the menu and onto the pot.
-2k S16 mode - crop sensor - this is great for those looking for a bit more DOF and some practical zoom lenses (like me!)
http://community.sony.com/t5/F5-F55/NEW-Firmware-timeline-charts-and-new-information-September-12th/m-p/181017#M5626

Also Davinci Resolve 10.
Im guessing that it is cool but they still dont quite get it Smiley

S


The motion image biz is going through the same thing we went through with digital stills 10 years ago.

I promise you we're gonna look back on the Alexas of today and laugh that we or somebody paid 80 grand for a 2k camera that hit the scales the same as a Toyota Prius.

Not knocking Arri because in so many ways, they know their industry and how to play to it, but it's all changing and changing fast.

The Amira , well Arri's got some big b___s, because who would introduce a a new 2k small(er) form factor camera at Arri prices and for who, photojournalists? We all know how well the profession is doing.

Anyway.

Just like a Nikon D800 will shoot to the perceived quality of any still camera made today, for what $3,000, we're going to see the same thing in motion, maybe even more pronounced.

Look at the BM pocket camera.  It looks like a cell phone and that's not a bad thing if it can shoot the quality and has the flexibility of a large camera.

I think the next change out of hardware will be software, especially for coloring.    Todays suites are too clunky and way too complicated.   Cinex will do the basics, which is kind of like C-1 or Lightroom, but without a few extra features like selective color, masks and tracking, in layers.   Yhose three interfaces I mentioned are 10x easier to learn and work than Di-Vinci and I own the full Di Vinci version.

Today's post production is time consuming and expensive.  Not editing, because good editing really takes time but color correcting, some green screen, some simple effects is just way too consuming and doesn't need to be.

I just priced out 14 videos that had a section of "difficult" green screen. Not awful, but the room was way too small and we had no option so the kinos lighting the background are rom the sides and obviously are brighter than the center.  I sent a few clips to my effects guy and he wanted $1800 to $2,800 a video.   At 14 videos that's a lot even with a good budget.  I took three different clips, shot on three days, dropped them into fcp 7 with an rt mask, layered it on the time line with three clips stacked and boom, green gone, it looks really good.

And that is from one simple plug int that I paid about 80 bucks for, so to me software will become the great equalizer in all of this.

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On a side note, you can see how money impacts post production.  There is an American TV show called Hell On Wheels.  The Pilot was georgous.  Beautiful sets, makeup to match the coloring, coloring to match the style. 

The next few episodes held to the same quality and slowly but surely after a season, it went to a standard color grade, kind of out of camera warm.

So time is money, money spins the world.

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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2013, 10:37:30 AM »
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I agree on the $80k thing.

I was blown away by a little detail on the arri - 5 sound tracks

That gives you a shotgun at 2 levels, 2 lavs, and an 'operator commentary' track - And bluetooth to headphones - no wire to strangle yourself with - that is heaven for sound on some of my sort of jobs

Roll on a $10g camera doing that.

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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2013, 11:02:16 AM »
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...  I sent a few clips to my effects guy and he wanted $1800 to $2,800 a video.   At 14 videos that's a lot even with a good budget.  I took three different clips, shot on three days, dropped them into fcp 7 with an rt mask, layered it on the time line with three clips stacked and boom, green gone, it looks really good.

And that is from one simple plug int that I paid about 80 bucks for, so to me software will become the great equalizer in all of this.
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Good story. It lends perspective to the current CC debate.
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2013, 06:40:47 AM »
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I agree on the $80k thing.

I was blown away by a little detail on the arri - 5 sound tracks

That gives you a shotgun at 2 levels, 2 lavs, and an 'operator commentary' track - And bluetooth to headphones - no wire to strangle yourself with - that is heaven for sound on some of my sort of jobs

Roll on a $10g camera doing that.

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I've had three "experienced" operators break headphone jacks in camera, by walking away with the headphones on their head.   Kind of surprises me that they don't know they're hooked up, but hey . . .  maybe bluetooth is the answer.   I think coffee is a better fix.

After reading about the Arri Amira I stand corrected as I think this camera will fill a huge niche, IF it comes in around $20,000 and Lens mounts, viewfinders, batteries don't cost 10 grand each.

That's the killer with this stuff, not the body or the main system, but the proprietary $5,000 accessory.

Still, I applaude Arri for going the 2k route on this camera. A 444 prorezz file with in camera grading sounds like a godsend.   It all depends on how it handles higher iso, the final weight of the camera and of course when it's available. 

If it hits the right points, I'll do it and probably make it my A camera.  If it's $25,000 plus, plus, plus, then I'll stay with my REDs.




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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2013, 02:31:51 PM »
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If it hits the right points, I'll do it and probably make it my A camera.  If it's $25,000 plus, plus, plus, then I'll stay with my REDs.


Think that's the key point.
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