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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2013, 05:37:57 PM »
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Here's another statement by an Adobe staff member in Adobe's public Support forum for CC which states that the current price at the end of your first year is the price that they are charging right now:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1300146?tstart=30

fyi, that information is incorrect (we are working to update the post).

Ill try to be really clear, since there is so much confusion on this. If you join the Photoshop photography program, the monthly price for that program may change in the future (up or down). We don't have plans to change the price, but just like all of our other prices for our services and products, the prices may change in the future.

You are not guaranteed that the price you pay per month will be $9.99 forever. It may go up, it may go down.

Unlike some of our other Creative Cloud promotions, where you get an introductory price for a year, and then after a year, it goes up to the regular price, the price for the photography bundle is the regular price. So, once you have been a member via the Photography program a year, your price does not automatically go up.

Hope that helps clarify things.

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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2013, 05:43:23 PM »
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Thanks for the clarification Mike.
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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2013, 03:42:45 AM »
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For potential Euro customers, I note that the price of the 9.99 subscription has already risen to 10.16 (or 12.29 with tax). 10.16 = US$13.73. Level playing field, Adobe?
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2013, 04:54:45 AM »
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For potential Euro customers, I note that the price of the 9.99 subscription has already risen to 10.16 (or 12.29 with tax). 10.16 = US$13.73. Level playing field, Adobe?

Hi Eric,

I don't think it has changed, 9.99 + 23% VAT = 12.29 . They charge 23% for endusers which is the Irish rate.

That of course doesn't explain why the European customers must pay some 34.9% more due to (today's) exchange rate, for an electronic delivery. The excuse that it is more expensive to run an operation in Europe, must easily be offset by the Tax benefits they get by running things from Ireland, otherwise they would not be there to begin with.

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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2013, 08:30:23 AM »
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fyi, that information is incorrect (we are working to update the post).

Ill try to be really clear, since there is so much confusion on this. If you join the Photoshop photography program, the monthly price for that program may change in the future (up or down). We don't have plans to change the price, but just like all of our other prices for our services and products, the prices may change in the future.

You are not guaranteed that the price you pay per month will be $9.99 forever. It may go up, it may go down.

Unlike some of our other Creative Cloud promotions, where you get an introductory price for a year, and then after a year, it goes up to the regular price, the price for the photography bundle is the regular price. So, once you have been a member via the Photography program a year, your price does not automatically go up.

Hope that helps clarify things.

mike chambers

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So its NOT introductory pricing on the PS/LR bundle?  So that means you don't have to buy before Jan 1, 2014 to get the
$9.99 pricing?

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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2013, 09:24:09 AM »
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So its NOT introductory pricing on the PS/LR bundle?  So that means you don't have to buy before Jan 1, 2014 to get the
$9.99 pricing?


No. After Dec 31, 2013 the offer goes away, so you wont be able to sign up for it after then.

Basically, it is a special offer / program, where you only have a couple of months to join, but once you join, you keep it as long as your CC membership remains active.

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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2013, 09:30:36 AM »
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No. After Dec 31, 2013 the offer goes away, so you wont be able to sign up for it after then.

Basically, it is a special offer / program, where you only have a couple of months to join, but once you join, you keep it as long as your CC membership remains active.

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So it really IS an introductory offer.  Man you guys have made a complete mess of this...
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« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2013, 09:34:37 AM »
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So it really IS an introductory offer.  Man you guys have made a complete mess of this...

It's a good deal. Far cheaper than the "introductory offer" for PS alone.  Does the label really matter that much? It's been clear from when it was first announced that the price, while probably increasing in line with other prices, will not jump dramatically to some "non-introductory" price. That's great for users. Consider yourself fortunate for being able to sign up for it. Don't worry; be happy ;-)
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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2013, 10:15:20 AM »
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It's a good deal. Far cheaper than the "introductory offer" for PS alone.  Does the label really matter that much? It's been clear from when it was first announced that the price, while probably increasing in line with other prices, will not jump dramatically to some "non-introductory" price. That's great for users. Consider yourself fortunate for being able to sign up for it. Don't worry; be happy ;-)

That this is a "good deal" is personal opinion.  It's not mine.

Does the label matter?  Of course it does.  If a company like Adobe can't get this right, well, what else can we expect from them long term?

IMO this whole episode from Adobe has been  a mess and it does not lead to trust between a customer and supplier.

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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2013, 10:20:23 AM »
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That this is a "good deal" is personal opinion.  It's not mine.

Does the label matter?  Of course it does.  If a company like Adobe can't get this right, well, what else can we expect from them long term?

IMO this whole episode from Adobe has been  a mess and it does not lead to trust between a customer and supplier.

Okay. So we have different opinions. That's cool. But the trolling and harassing of Mike is not cool.
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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2013, 12:31:02 PM »
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I don't think (the price) has changed, 9.99 + 23% VAT = 12.29 . They charge 23% for endusers which is the Irish rate.

That of course doesn't explain why the European customers must pay some 34.9% more due to (today's) exchange rate, for an electronic delivery. The excuse that it is more expensive to run an operation in Europe, must easily be offset by the Tax benefits they get by running things from Ireland, otherwise they would not be there to begin with.


Thanks for that, Bart. Knowing I'm paying Irish sales tax sugars the pill about this much!
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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2013, 02:04:37 PM »
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Okay. So we have different opinions. That's cool. But the trolling and harassing of Mike is not cool.

Oh please, I asked a simple question.
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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2013, 03:02:56 PM »
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It's a good deal. Far cheaper than the "introductory offer" for PS alone.  Does the label really matter that much? It's been clear from when it was first announced that the price, while probably increasing in line with other prices, will not jump dramatically to some "non-introductory" price. That's great for users. Consider yourself fortunate for being able to sign up for it. Don't worry; be happy ;-)
For me the point is that if this IS an introductory offer, and that those joining on January 1 2014 will have to pay a lot more, then there is a good chance that the good price we have now will mysteriously disappear at some point in the not-too-distant future as it wil become unsustainable for Adobe to keep 2 prices for the same product.
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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2013, 03:22:08 PM »
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... it wil[l] become unsustainable for Adobe to keep 2 prices for the same product.

Because?

(Airlines have multiple prices for the same seat -- it depends when you buy.)
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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2013, 04:22:33 PM »
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For me the point is that if this IS an introductory offer, and that those joining on January 1 2014 will have to pay a lot more, then there is a good chance that the good price we have now will mysteriously disappear at some point in the not-too-distant future as it wil become unsustainable for Adobe to keep 2 prices for the same product.

Just to be clear, no one can join after Dec 31, 2013. If you want to join this program, you have to sign up by the end of the year. At the end of the year, the offer doesn't exist anymore. You won't be able to sign up.

Anyone who had signed up before then will remain in it as long as they keep their membership active.

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« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2013, 07:26:09 AM »
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This offer seems to have bypassed the UK - just checked Adobe UK website
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« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2013, 07:52:37 AM »
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Not sure you looked very hard - see https://creative.adobe.com/plans/offer/photoshop+lightroom?store_code=gb&locale=en
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« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2013, 08:56:50 AM »
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This is what my wife says when I can't find my glasses/car keys/her handbag/anything else, but she usually adds "you've got senile dementia" so thank you for your restraint!
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« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2013, 07:17:23 PM »
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So it really IS an introductory offer.  Man you guys have made a complete mess of this...

seemes pretty clear to me.  Introductory offers entice you to join for a discounted price for a period of time with an automatic increase in price when the time is up (usually pretty significant).  Typical of many businesses such cable/satellite TV .  Adobe has a couple of introductory offers going as well

But this is differentWhile there is no guarantee there won't be a price increase in the future (what company does that?), there is no automatic increase.  Not introductory, it's just a special limited time offer.  And certainly adobe could decide to extend it , and indeed they could decide it's just a standard package that is always available in the future if it seemed a good approach.  But for now it's a limited time offer, no guaranteed built in price increase after the year.
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