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« on: November 26, 2013, 08:52:48 AM »
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If you recall, this almost happened several years back, when Leica agreed to purchase Sinar from Jenoptik, but never completed the acquisition.

https://captureintegration.com/leica-camera-ag-takes-over-sinar-photography/


This also sheds some more light on the recent Sinar software and hardware development for the Leica S.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=83407.0




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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2013, 08:58:42 AM »
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Makes sense.
Good luck to Sinar and Leica after taking this step.
Two awesome companies producing incredibly good products.
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2013, 09:29:58 AM »
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Makes sense.
Good luck to Sinar and Leica after taking this step.
Two awesome companies producing incredibly good products.




I sort of remember Sinar Norma as being a very delicate piece of stuff - not the sort of girl to handle in any hurry; as for Miss Leica, she never let you see the whole picture.

It's better to put on your ears and just play some Chuck.

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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 09:58:27 AM »
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Good luck😊
I hope this means we will finally see a stable and modern software for the Sinarbacks.
The best studio-backs on the market have the worst software. I hope some Leica-money will
solve this.

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2013, 10:57:47 AM »
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Are Sinarbacks independent from Phase or Leaf etc?
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2013, 11:06:54 AM »
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Yeah, this is big news for sure.  Should be interesting to see where this leads.

We broke this story this morning: Leica Camera AG Gobbles Up Sinar
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2013, 11:40:34 AM »
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Good news.

Thanks to those who give us real choice. Without them we'd all be using the plastic fantastic.
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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2013, 02:21:13 PM »
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Are Sinarbacks independent from Phase or Leaf etc?


How do you mean, Phil?

They would be independent in nearly every way - different hardware, different software, different ownership.

They do share (1) CCD sensor, the 33MP Dalsa sensor used in the multi-shot capable eVolution 75-H (also used in Leaf 33MP solutions as a single shot capture device).



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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2013, 08:51:40 PM »
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This is very good news. I still remember the day Sinar is the leader of Digitalback.
Hope they will get back on track very soon.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2013, 09:03:30 PM »
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They do share (1) CCD sensor...

Yes, I ment CCD chip; if it were differnt...
So the other models use unique sensors made for Sinar and differ from those that Leaf, Phase or Pentax Hass, etc Db's use?

Or is it more like how Sinaron lenses are, that are "cherry picked" Rod or other lenses and rebadged?
(Although, I'm sure there are SInar spec specifics lenses)
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2013, 10:32:09 PM »
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Who makes Sinar's lenses for them? Schneider?

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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2013, 11:47:21 PM »
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At one time I thought it was Rodenstock, may have changed?
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 01:07:55 AM »
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I wonder if this means we'll see more backs from Sinar?  Revival of the M?
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2013, 02:56:07 AM »
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I wonder what Leica see in Sinar for a profitable future? Leica can not meet demand for Leica products.
 Is the 35mm style handholdable market place too fast and too crowded and too cheap for future expansion?
Just curious as what Sinar can bring to Leica or Leica too Sinar, is there anything the two can integrate the products with, or will they be two separate entities?
I hope it works out well for both, because it will mean it works out well for photographers in the future, assuming there will be photographers in the future:-)
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 03:15:30 AM »
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Up to date, non-tethering backs for the Hy6 would be nice.
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2013, 03:37:18 AM »
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Hi,

Sinar could use Leica's technology for backs.

Best regards
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I wonder what Leica see in Sinar for a profitable future? Leica can not meet demand for Leica products.
 Is the 35mm style handholdable market place too fast and too crowded and too cheap for future expansion?
Just curious as what Sinar can bring to Leica or Leica too Sinar, is there anything the two can integrate the products with, or will they be two separate entities?
I hope it works out well for both, because it will mean it works out well for photographers in the future, assuming there will be photographers in the future:-)
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2013, 03:43:50 AM »
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<<I wonder if this means we'll see more backs from Sinar?  Revival of the M?>>

Sinar is now specialized in multi-shot backs, without any portable solutions. But all cameras are now adapted to external backs (PhaseOne, Leaf, Hasselblad, ...).

Do not forget that the beautiful "m" was based on Zeiss optics. Not really compatible with the Leitz world...

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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2013, 04:18:58 AM »
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Hi,

Sinar could use Leica's technology for backs.

Best regards
Erik



I think they need more than that out of the deal, it would be hard to make meaningful inroads against Phase, Leaf and Hasselblad.
Do Leica get a stake in Broncolor now as well?
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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2013, 05:46:05 AM »
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I wonder if this means we'll see more backs from Sinar?  Revival of the M?


Imagine a new M body to the fantastic Zeiss af lenses?😊😊

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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2013, 05:56:03 AM »
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Imagine a new M body to the fantastic Zeiss af lenses?😊😊

Henrik
Leica are not in this to progress the M as is, they don't need to buy Sinar for that. I don't see anything in the Leica catalogue that ties in with Sinar products, it would need to be something new for that to happen. A system with precision movements you can bolt a S and M onto (don't search "movements, bolt s&m" it might not be anything to do with cameras:-)), is about the only direct linkup I can see. I doubt that would be enough of a reason to buy the company either.
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