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Eric Myrvaagnes
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« Reply #120 on: February 15, 2014, 01:34:22 PM »
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I don't know where Alan lives but he might want to look and see if there are some small independent companies that could put this system together for a small price.  If he lives in my area, I would do it in a heartbeat!!   Grin
I did just that about three years ago when I decided to move from a Dell XPS-something-or-other running 32-bit Vista up to a 64-bit Win 7 system.
I explored the build-it-yourself idea I was too timid to go that route. Instead I found an outfit called PCs for Everyone (http://www.pcsforeveryone.com/) which had a distribution depot within an easy drive of where I live, near Boston.

The nice thing about their site is that they have great planning tools that let you start with one of their standard pre-configured machines and go down the list of specs to see what alternatives they offer to each part. They give you the exact maker and product number of each item so you can easily look for reviews to help you pick the one that fits your own needs best. Once you pick your configuration, you can either get the components to assemble yourself, or you can pay a few bucks (I forget how much it was) to have them assemble and test the whole thing. I went for having them put it together, and I drove to the depot to pick it up when it was ready.

Just to set the record straight, what I ended up with does in fact have a 24GB memory maximum, because it has six memory slots (3-channel memory) with a maximum capacity of 24GB for the whole board (perhaps I could double it now if I wanted to, if I updated the BIOS, but I've never found the need to). My system has an Intel Core I7 950 CPU @ 3.07 GHz on an Intel DX58S02 motherboard (Socket 1366 LGA). I chose an Antec "Ultimate Gaming" case because it is easy to open for adding or swapping components, has lots of fans with easy-to-remove and clean filters, and at least seven drive bays.

I have installed various hard drives and an SSD and added a RAID controller and ESATA card and cleaned the filters a few times, and it has run beautifully for me.

A local "white box" outfit like this could be a good way to go, unless you do live within an easy drive of Steve Weldon.


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« Reply #121 on: February 15, 2014, 01:48:45 PM »
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Given a choice between these two activities I would not assemble computers.

In this day and age, let someone else worry about components. You already ticked the right checkboxes. Any possible gains after a top of the line Haswell and that first SSD will be marginal.

Go with Dell if you are happy with the service and support :-)
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« Reply #122 on: February 15, 2014, 02:15:40 PM »
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At my age, any sex is special!  All kidding aside, I could handle the build and the downstream service.  I spent 50 years as a technician and designer and installer and servicer of building automation systems, computer based fire alarem systems for high rise office buildings etc.   It's just that I just don't want to do it anymore just like I'd rather let someone else develope my film. 
There's nothing wrong with that, it describes over half my customers.  Most are technical professionals of one type or the other who just don't care to keep up with the market so they know what to buy, and/or don't feel like bothering with the build. 

And from experience I'd rank Dell Service as pretty good.   Even marginally better than Lenovo.. but this is based only on my own experience with them.

You'll enjoy the new system, as mentioned before its so far ahead of your old one, you'll be caught up in the slip stream for at least the first few months.. Smiley
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« Reply #123 on: February 15, 2014, 02:28:05 PM »
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Steve  Thanks for all your help and honesty.  I appreciate everyone else's assistance as well.   As an aside, I happened to be looking a the Features section of the Dell site.  It appears that I should be able to update later.

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-8700/pd?oc=ddcwgp2103&model_id=xps-8700  Click the Features and Design box on the left.

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Ample storage and expandability

Opt for 2TB hard-drive storage and keep an impressive digital media library —around half a million photos or songs, 240 hours of video or 550 movies. And if even that’s not enough, you have the ability to expand to 4TB.

The more memory, the better. At any time, installing more memory is a simple operation. Choose up to 16GB RAM now, with room for additional 16GB RAM when you're ready.
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« Reply #124 on: February 16, 2014, 02:07:36 AM »
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Steve  Thanks for all your help and honesty.  I appreciate everyone else's assistance as well.   As an aside, I happened to be looking a the Features section of the Dell site.  It appears that I should be able to update later.

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-8700/pd?oc=ddcwgp2103&model_id=xps-8700  Click the Features and Design box on the left.


No problem Alan.   

About your quote/ram.   I think you'll find many such posts, people saying "you should" be able to do this.. which isn't the same as someone actually doing it.

Good luck with the new system and do let us know how you like it  Especially the monitor.
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« Reply #125 on: February 16, 2014, 08:51:44 PM »
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The NEC PA242W-BK is arriving tomorrow.  Can I use it with my old Dell XPS 420 that's running Vista while I'm waiting for the new computer?
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« Reply #126 on: February 16, 2014, 09:33:23 PM »
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The NEC PA242W-BK is arriving tomorrow.  Can I use it with my old Dell XPS 420 that's running Vista while I'm waiting for the new computer?
Sure, as long as long as the interfaces allow and I'm sure they do.  You might have to hunt around for an adapter  What video output type does your Dell 420 have?  DVI, HDMI, DP?


I wouldn't though.. I'd be afraid of spoiling the overall surprise. 
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« Reply #127 on: June 14, 2014, 12:16:35 AM »
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A doubt:

I am also making a similar system coined by Jim here in 'democratic way'.....  Grin

I found a 'Samsung 840 Evo Series 250GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (MZ-7TE250BW)' is available at about 2/3rd price of a 'Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (MZ-7PD256BW)'.

Given size 250 GB is enough, any other technical problem for this 250 GB ?
Because I found 250GB a very rare number in Drives !

    

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« Reply #128 on: June 14, 2014, 07:06:12 AM »
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A doubt:

I found a 'Samsung 840 Evo Series 250GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (MZ-7TE250BW)' is available at about 2/3rd price of a 'Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (MZ-7PD256BW)'.

Given size 250 GB is enough, any other technical problem for this 250 GB ?
Because I found 250GB a very rare number in Drives !

You won't have any problem with the drive.  250GB is kind of a standard size with SSDs.  Key difference between it and the Pro is speed which won't be much of a factor at all for photo processing needs.  I upgraded my work station from the 128 840 Pro to the 250 EVO three months ago and haven't seen any difference at all.  IMO, Samsung SSDs are the best around.
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« Reply #129 on: June 14, 2014, 07:25:28 AM »
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Thank you,
And I have choice of Storage HDD: ‘Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM SATA Internal Desktop Hard Drive (ST3000DM001)’ is half the price of ‘Western Digital 3TB Enterprise Internal Hard Drive (WD3000F9YZ)’.

Is the cheaper Seagate advisable?
From my past experience, casualty of Seagate is more. But the price !

Can you please advise me ?
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« Reply #130 on: June 14, 2014, 08:08:50 PM »
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Thank you,
And I have choice of Storage HDD: ‘Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM SATA Internal Desktop Hard Drive (ST3000DM001)’ is half the price of ‘Western Digital 3TB Enterprise Internal Hard Drive (WD3000F9YZ)’.

Is the cheaper Seagate advisable?
From my past experience, casualty of Seagate is more. But the price !

Can you please advise me ?


1st person (Me):  Me and a second person noticed these 3tb externals selling for what was in Oct 2011 a bargain basement price.  Knowing they usually stuff externals with their lowest performing drives I didn't expect much.  I bought two of them to use as temporary drives.  Me being me had to open the things up.. do some research, and discovered Seagate had stuffed these with their very latest and fastest drives.  I did some tests and was surprised.  I 'shelled' both of these drives and installed them as a RAID1 in my desktop case.  They have been running 24/7 (I never turn them off) since and I do a SMART test monthly with not even a single defective sector to date.   Until they show signs of their demise I'll keep them operational.


2nd person:   I told a friend about these and he bought two.  He made the same RAID1.  About a year ago his went bad. 

I suppose you could hope for either one.


I wrote an article about this back then you can read here..
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