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« on: January 16, 2014, 09:12:55 AM »
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I have just published a new video titled "The Rangefinder: Truth, Mystique & Practice - Leica M240"

In the Purple store, do a search for 'Rangefinder'

It should appear in customers' subscriptions in about 24 hours (01/17/2014)

The video is made up of a three segment discussion on Rangefinders between Michael Reichmann, Sean Reid of reidreviews.com and Mark Dubovoy. It was shot on location in Ithaca, N.Y. in the Spring of 2013.

At an hour & twenty minutes, this wide-ranging discussion looks in detail at the Leica M240, the Fuji X-Pro1, focussing techniques, Window Viewfinders and Electronic Viewfinders, a comparison to DSLRs, the use of R lenses on an M Leica, the suitability of Rangefinders for new photographers, the cost of Leica and others, a recent history of Rangefinders since the advent of SLRs, Rangefinders use for 'quiet' or 'stealth' pohotography, a look at what's new in the M240 over the M9, the shortcomings of the M240 - in the varied oipinions of the three participants, Leica lenses, their 'mystique' and finally, the use of Leica M mount lenses on other cameras.
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2014, 02:47:56 PM »
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Thanks, Chris. As a rangefinder shooter I'm looking forward to this.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2014, 03:27:13 PM »
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Owning a Mamiya 7 II and a Fuji X-E2 I'm curious what you have to say about this type of camera.
Looking forward to see it.
Especially since I don't own a television ... Wink
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2014, 04:44:52 AM »
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Sounds interesting.

But why the X-Pro 1? It's not a rangefinder.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2014, 06:13:51 AM »
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But why the X-Pro 1? It's not a rangefinder.
Ah yes, I probably should have called it a WindowFinder camera with AutoFocus  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2014, 06:21:54 AM »
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Ah yes, I probably should have called it a WindowFinder camera with AutoFocus  Grin

Or a RangeFinderless, WindowFinder camera with AutoFocus?
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2014, 10:17:39 AM »
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Ah yes, the Bandersnatch's 2nd Cousin: the Rafl-Wif-Waf - vorpal sword to the M240!
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2014, 08:18:34 PM »
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Should the video already be in the LuLA application that comes as part of the yearly subscription ? It does not seem to be there yet.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2014, 10:07:46 PM »
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Yes it is there - but you may need to select Refresh owned products from the gear icon top right. It appears in the middle of the listings after the Palouse - or do a search on 'Range'
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2014, 03:22:36 AM »
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I have just published a new video titled "The Rangefinder: Truth, Mystique & Practice - Leica M240"

In the Purple store, do a search for 'Rangefinder'

It should appear in customers' subscriptions in about 24 hours (01/17/2014)

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It doesn't appear so far which leads me to the question why your valued subscribers are being served later than others.

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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2014, 03:30:20 AM »
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Hi,

I don't see it either…

Best regards
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It doesn't appear so far which leads me to the question why your valued subscribers are being served later than others.

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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2014, 03:33:59 AM »
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Hi,

I don't see it either…


The Bandersnatch ate it.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2014, 04:52:51 AM »
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For me it works.

I have used / been using Mamiya Press, Mamiya 7 ii and now Fuji X-E2 as rangefinder / rangefinder type cameras. I don't count compacts here.
For me the most interesting part was the last part where Michael, Sean and Mark discuss the subjective feelings towards the rangefinder type cameras.
Having started photography with an SLR (Nikon FE, which has been sold long ago) in about 1983,
switched to the Mamiya Press later (as cheapest MF option for me at that time) and now using a Mamiya 7 II and a Fuji X E2,
I have similar feelings about using this type of camera - I love them.
A similar emotional experience (for different reasons) I only had when I had a loaned Sinar 4x5" camera for a week.
Using a Nikon D700 for a private assignment in 2012 I couldn't really connect to that camera, though the images came out well.

When I ask my self "why?" I think the less bulk and unbtrusiveness (Okay the Mamiya Press was a tank, talking about the Mamiya 7 ii here)
is a main factor for me. The "Big Window" viewfinder doesn't do too much to me - I prefer the EVF of the X E2, which gives me the image
I get on chip later and allows for long lenses (300 mm equivalent - try that on a Leica ...)
The (acoustic) noise level being significantly lower than on SLRs and the camera cases being clearly smaller together with access
to lens designs (Biogon type symmetric wideangles) not working on an SLR I think the features that make it for me are identified.
And there still is this nose issue (thanks to Fuji for their design of the "X" cameras).

Concerning my shooting experience with the X E2 - small case, fast responsive camera, OIS,
fast autofocus, low shutter noise, non-tormenting the nose to me it appears to be a
perfect street shooting machine and great synthesis of old viewfinder and modern electronic features.
An X-Pro 2 with the features of the X E2 (fast phase detection AF!) would probably become my personal wet dream.

Okay - time to end rave mode

The bottom line is:
Anyone thinking about buying a camera and feeling unsecure about rangefinders/non-SLRs should see this video.
I personally find it a bit too much a Leica show (not entirely though), and concerning the history
some important cameras (Like the Mamiya 7) are missing but however - a tribute to the rangefinder class is a good thing to have.

Maybe talking of "rangefinder" at all is not the right term in these times since the classic rangefinder device is not what makes it these days.
"Finally no more mirrors" might be the more appropriate description of this camera class (seems CSC is the term used now):
  • Less bulk
  • Little noise only
  • Lack of mirror slap
  • Longer lenses available
  • Little things: Macro work possible
  • Laufbilder: Video and Burst Mode AF profits having no more mirror.
  • Last but not least: Healthier noses!!!

(Why does every item on this list start with an "L" ??? /me scratches head)

Cheers
~Chris
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2014, 05:50:50 AM »
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For me it works.


For me it still doesn't. Are you a subscriber or did you buy it in the LuLa-store?

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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2014, 06:16:24 AM »
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I have now had half a dozen similar complaints. I have contacted the Purple help people as should you.

When the video shows up, it does so as seen in the screengrab below: after The Palouse and before the first of the numbered Camera to Print & Screen videos.

Chris
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2014, 06:38:58 AM »
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Maybe talking of "rangefinder" at all is not the right term in these times since the classic rangefinder device is not what makes it these days.

You're right and you're wrong.

You're right, describing a camera without a rangefinder as a rangefinder camera is clearly a nonsense.

You're wrong, what makes a classic rangefinder device is the rangefinder.
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2014, 06:43:01 AM »
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For me it still doesn't. Are you a subscriber or did you buy it in the LuLa-store?

Harald

I'm a subscriber.
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2014, 10:49:13 AM »
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I have done the refresh and still a no go. Very odd. Any other way to try this ? Is there some database file that can be deleted and rebuilt ?
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2014, 12:26:49 PM »
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I have done the refresh and still a no go.
Same here, happened with the Rørslett interview too.
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2014, 12:32:54 PM »
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Purple are working on it
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