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« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2014, 02:52:22 AM »
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http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-lenses/319939-adding-focus-tab-diy.html
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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2014, 07:25:24 PM »
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Thanks Keith and Dave!

I am about to invest in a few Leica lenses.  So far I haven't done so because I first wanted to make sure I like the camera.

Hopefully these tabs help with faster focusing.
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« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2014, 11:32:30 PM »
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funny, was thinking of just using a strip tie, and sure enough that's what someone used

the idea of glueing something to a Leica lens gives me shivers

going to try the strip tie.
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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2014, 10:04:35 AM »
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Thanks Keith and Dave!

I am about to invest in a few Leica lenses.  So far I haven't done so because I first wanted to make sure I like the camera.

Hopefully these tabs help with faster focusing.

Generally speaking investment and lens buying are mutually exclusive. Leica M lenses are one of the few exceptions. Look after those lenses and in the long term you'll not loose money.

Wishing you good shooting.
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« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2014, 10:54:16 PM »
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Generally speaking investment and lens buying are mutually exclusive.

Technically any lens is an investment if it's used to produce income, but the word has been corrupted by marketing 'geniuses' hoping to convince hobbyists that their purchase is somehow better than spending money.
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« Reply #45 on: February 26, 2014, 03:24:30 AM »
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Technically any lens is an investment if it's used to produce income, but the word has been corrupted by marketing 'geniuses' hoping to convince hobbyists that their purchase is somehow better than spending money.

Agreed, which is why I highlighted the generalisation rather than the technicality.
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« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2014, 01:06:19 AM »
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I have Nikon 24x36 plus a Fuji X now, have owned and used film Leica M's in the past. 
The Fuji(in my case, an XE1) is, to me, a fancied-up point-and-shoot where you can set the exposure and focus and change lenses.  I've got the 21 and 35 equivalent lenses, and may not buy more.
It's clear that no one has a solution to the freeze/blackout problem in the EVFs.  The blackout time on the newest, fastest Fuji XT1 seems about three times as long as on a Nikon DSLR.
I wish Leica would make their rangefinder more useable to eyeglass wearers.  Right now it useless wider than a 50mm for me.
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« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2014, 07:22:05 AM »
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Personally I've never cared for the focus tabs. Although the majority of my M lenses have it, for me, they just get in the way - especially when shooting in the vertical position.
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« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2014, 11:08:45 AM »
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Another point on tabbed lenses---at least for the lenses I've used (21, 28, 35, 50), the tab position is consistent across focal lengths and focus distance.  You can focus by feel to some distance by putting the tab in the same position.  It's easy to memorize a couple of handy distances/positions, and then use them for all your lenses.  I like tabs very much.
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« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2014, 02:10:56 PM »
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Another point on tabbed lenses---at least for the lenses I've used (21, 28, 35, 50), the tab position is consistent across focal lengths and focus distance.  You can focus by feel to some distance by putting the tab in the same position.  It's easy to memorize a couple of handy distances/positions, and then use them for all your lenses.  I like tabs very much.

Yes this is what they are for. Discreet shooting on the street or doc work by feel alone. Landscapers need not apply.
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« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2014, 02:12:56 PM »
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I like the way Zeiss has implemented tabs on their ZM lenses. They're bumps in the ribbed focus rings. This is one reason why I've been favoring the ZMs on my M6 and more recently new/old M8s. The 21 & 28mm f/2.8 ZMs also have a 46mm filter thread, which matches my most versatile set of IR filters. (IR pass, that is...I don't use the infamous IR blocking filters.)

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« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2014, 11:17:59 AM »
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Thanks Keith and Dave!

I am about to invest in a few Leica lenses.  So far I haven't done so because I first wanted to make sure I like the camera.

Hopefully these tabs help with faster focusing.

If you have used film Leica M cameras, the M240 is a tiny bit larger but it is still a Leica M.  I shot with an MP and an M4-P for 10+ years before I got the M240.  I have not found anything to complain about with the M240 so far.  When I was doing my research before buying, I looked really hard to find an alternative to the undeniably costly M240 that would let me use my Leica M lenses and would be a full frame camera.  Every camera I looked at was in one way or another a compromise.  I did not want a "settle for" camera so I traded in my Leica MP body and a bunch of Nikon gear to get the M240. 

After using it for about six weeks, I would not part with the M240 for love or money. 

Regarding Leica M gear as "investments," any film M camera or lens that is taken care of will hold its value.  I shot with my MP for 10+ years and got the same amount of trade-in credit from it as I paid for it when I bought it new.  A digital camera will probably not retain 100% of its original cost, but film Leicas will as will M lenses, if they are well cared for.
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« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2014, 01:30:48 PM »
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I think the Fuji is a good value for the money, but I have not used the Leica as I do not care to invest that much money. There are plenty of opinions here and elsewhere. The best thing is rent similar setups, try them out and see what works for you. Opinions on forums are just that opinions, you are the only one who can decide what works best for you.

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« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2014, 11:08:50 AM »
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I have two years of experience with Fuji X100, few months with Fuji X-E2 along with XF14,23,35 and 56mm. Not had the chance to handle the M240 yet. As far as Fuji goes, very good value for the money and very good results, all the lenses are very good!

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« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2014, 11:24:05 AM »
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I use both the Fuji X-E2, the A7r, and the Leica M8 - so I'm not biased but , this time at least , Diglloyd got it right, IMO. http://diglloyd.com/blog/2014-index-5.html#20140520_2250-EVF-resolution
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« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2014, 04:07:40 PM »
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I don't disagree with Lloyd...the EVF was one reason why I passed on the M240, but in the end I wouldn't have used it (EVF) much anyway. For me rangefinders are very much a "see it, frame it, click" kind of camera. Lenses usually stopped down enough so that quick-reaction focusing is accurate enough. The kind of care taken with focus in Lloyd's report just doesn't happen when I pick up an RF camera. One of the reasons I stopped using the X-E1 with my RF lenses in favor of the M8 was the way the Fuji had nudged my pic-taking approach away from spontaneity. I was fussing too much with it. Give me the power to get perfectionist about something and I'll take advantage of it, even to the detriment of the overall thing (job, hobby, craft, etc.) I'm doing.   Shocked  When it comes to the freer style of photography I often prefer, RFs put a beneficial hard limit on fussiness.

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« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2014, 08:00:51 PM »
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One of the reasons I stopped using the X-E1 with my RF lenses in favor of the M8 was the way the Fuji had nudged my pic-taking approach away from spontaneity. [...]When it comes to the freer style of photography I often prefer, RFs put a beneficial hard limit on fussiness.

Dave,

All I can say is that the latest X-E2 update has given the Fuji good FP. Not as good as the Sony but more than good enough. For fast, spontaneous (read: street style) shooting I now find it faster than a RF and it's the easiest cam to pre-focus. I set it to monochrome with red FP - it takes fraction of a second, and never stops to amuse me as I see the DOF shift as I play with focus. The Fuji with a 24 Elmar is a gas. Obviously, for critical focus both cams (X-E2 and A7r) are great.

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« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2014, 06:41:48 PM »
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The Sony A7R: Most overrated camera ever ...

Maybe, but I think my A7 is the best camera I've ever owned.
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« Reply #58 on: May 30, 2014, 09:40:22 AM »
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Actually I heared a rumor about someone modding a Mamiya 7 once, but never found the proof.

search ebay

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