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« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2005, 01:11:56 PM »
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Mark.
You were right about PS difficulty with 1x3 stitching compared to ArcSoft. See results of test update at
http://www.higherworld.com/stitch/
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« Reply #41 on: September 21, 2005, 03:54:53 PM »
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Don, thanks alot for doing this and sharing it with us. It is very instructive - and gives me confidence in my recent purchase of ArcSoft. I'll save exploring the more labour-intensive programs should the need arise.
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« Reply #42 on: September 21, 2005, 09:40:15 PM »
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Great posts, Bryan and Don.  Very informative.  Thanks!

It looks like I'd be wise to cover my backside and order Arcsoft, too.  I'm addicted to the power of stitching.

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« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2005, 09:03:00 PM »
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Peter,
Thanks for admitting your addiction to the "power of stitching". Now I can come out of the closet. The 4x5 people will laugh at us for choosing little cameras. But, my answer to them is that I would really like to stitch some of their 4x5's. They don't understand. It's addiction to the process and not the size of the format.
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« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2005, 12:31:08 PM »
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Don't recall anyone mentioning Acrylic from Microsoft (free for now). I've done a couple, one a 6 shot pano of Goosenecks of the San Jauan, with only one really minor mismatch. Although I haven't stressed it with deliberate exposure mismatches it compares favourably to PTA which is what I would normally use - and Acrylic is really really easy to use. Navigating through all the menus just to do a stitch can be a pain, so here are the simple instructions:

File_ New Vector Layer
File_ Insert image
Image_ Stitch selected images
Object_ Image_ Export as image file
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« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2005, 06:01:10 AM »
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If you are a PC user you can try PTGUI the new beta of the 5 version is amazing and full automated.

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« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2005, 10:11:16 AM »
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Thanks for the heads-up David, I shall go there and have a look - sounds good. I hope they've improved on what they allow for product evaluation, because what they've provided up to now is a major sales turn-off.
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« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2005, 10:29:46 PM »
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Mark, this has been a great thread, on your reco, I have ordered Arcsoft and am looking forward to using it as soon as it comes.
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« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2005, 10:50:08 PM »
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FGarvin, I can only claim partial credit for the recommendation, because it came recommended to me through an article on panoramas published in "Nature Photographers Online Magazine", and as I got into looking at the alternatives I came to the realization that their recommendation is a good one. I hope you have good success with it, and let us hear about your results.
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« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2005, 03:37:29 PM »
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PTGUI 5 final version is now avaliable for download.

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« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2005, 04:00:47 PM »
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OKAY, some people, including myself, came to the conclusion that ArcSoft was the best stitcher.  I ran a simple hard-to-stitch nine shot( 3x3) hand held test between "Photoshop CS2 Photomerge" and "ArcSoft"( ref: http://www.higherworld.com/stitch ).

WELL, after hearing all the chatter about PT Assembler I decided to test it using the same nine shots.  A side-by-side comparison of all three pieces of software are on http://www.higherworld.com/stitch2 .

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« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2005, 04:39:38 PM »
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Very useful test Don. What do they say: "No pain, no gain"? I may just take a deep breath and download the PT components the first time I get an unsatisfactory result from ArcSoft. Have you considered downloading a trial of RealViz Stitcher 5 to see what you can do with incredibly expensive software, or is that of no interest now that you PT so well under control?
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« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2005, 06:05:25 PM »
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Mark, I installed the RealViz Stitcher 5 and tried the nine original images.  It assembled them quickly as a small image too small to assess.  Then I chose "Render" and after choosing various render options hit the preview button( that was the only option available).  The following message appeared: "Stitcher has run out of memory.  Aborting.", at which time it vanished.
So, I tried only two of the images to make it easier and I got the same message and crash.  The save option was blacked out, also.
I have a ton of work to do tonight but I will revisit this expensive software a little later and report.
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« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2005, 06:19:32 PM »
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I'm not surprised. When I tried to evaluate the previous version it was hopeless. May-be you'll have better luck on the next go-around.
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« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2005, 08:53:24 PM »
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I know I chimed in about Hugins earlier in the thread, but it uses all the same stuff that PTAssembler uses, but it is free.  And now the download comes with everything you need to stitch.
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« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2005, 09:07:07 PM »
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PT Gui and PT Assembler use the same base stitching engine, Helmut Dersch's Panorama Tools, which is available free of charge but is a sod to use stand-alone.  Several people have written more friendly GUIs for this, and features such as automatic control point setting and auto blending can be used with greater ease

Take a look at Max Lyons' website (http://www.tawbaware.com/maxlyons/) if you haven't already. He wrote PT Assembler, and the latest version is more automated. I'm amazed and delighted by the results I get from PT Assembler, and get just the same from PT Gui.  I like the pano preview window you get with PT Gui, but the results are identical as far as I can ascertain.
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« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2005, 09:24:58 PM »
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I've demoed both PTGUI and PTAssembler.  The think I like about Hugins is that it is FREE, and it has a preview window like PTGUI.  It isn't as automatic as PTAssembler though.  You should check it out, because it is basically the same as the two mentioned above.  

Hugins - A Free Front for Helmut Dersch's Panorama Tools
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« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2005, 10:07:17 PM »
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I've never been able to get hugins to produce anything.  Like it chokes.  Does the damnedable thing work now?

PTGui seems pretty nice.  But I'd rather use hugins if it actually functions.
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« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2005, 11:06:48 PM »
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I tried Hugins out of interest after reading this thread, and failed to get it to do three stitches that PT GUI and PT Assembler did seamlesslessly and effortlessly. Probably just a matter of learning it as it does use the same stitching engine, but I just find it less intuitive.
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« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2005, 11:07:20 AM »
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Has anyone compared PTGui 5's built-in stitching to the version that still uses the Panorama tools externals? It looks like with v5 of PTGui the author rolled all the external tools he had been using (stitcher, enblend, autopano) into a single program, so it could be more integrated.
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